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    Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    I've been collecting information on the Pinkham and Smith lenses and history ever since I came across the images of Jim Galli and Jonathan Brewer little over a year back now.

    Looked at the catalogs on the sites of some of the members here and Googled extensively to find what's available in catalogs and magazine publications.

    About a week back I came across a reference for a Pinkham & Smith Photographic Apparatus catalog for the early 1900's in an academic library. I was able to get the 122 pages scanned (30MB pdf ...) for a scanning + admin fee and I'm attaching the pages related to P&S lenses below.

    Based on the cameras represented in the catalog, this publication has to be post 1908 but most likely prior to 1912 ... the latter is just a guestimate based on the cameras that are not present. It would take more scrutiny and research by someone more familiar with 20th century camera equipment than I for a more accurate dating if at all possible.

    I've not seen these pages before on any of the catalog sites I frequent so I hope these are useful to someone

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    Some other lens pages for reference and price (at the time !) comparison ...

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    There are some more pages on Goerz and Turner Reich lenses which I will post later if there's interest ...

    Enjoy

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    Rudi,

    I assume you have seen my pages covering the P&S made lenses (those in your ad are by other makers) ? see http://antiquecameras.net/softfocuslenses.html

    Best
    Dan

    And attached is an ad from a 1915 Catalog thats not on my website

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    Dan,

    I'm very familiar with the P&S made lenses on your site (thanks for all the SF lens info btw ...) and I'm aware that the lenses in the catalog I just posted are manufactured by other makers. We often see references to "relabeled" lenses sold under P&S engraving with associated, sometimes heated, discussion which glass in in these lenses

    Reason for sharing is to attach some timeline to these and put a visual reference out there. Show possible forms/shapes/focal lengths and what more for the next guy coming across one of those ...

    Thanks for sharing the page out of the 1915 catalog, another great reference point.

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    Upon closer examination I found a faint post mark stamp on the cover of the catalog ... reads: xx.20.1908 ... narrowing the time down

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    Good stuff Rudi. All of the lenses in the catalog pictures you posted are ordinary Bausch & Lomb products with Pinkham's name engraved. I've also seen the same thing with Wollensak Petzval's with Pinkham engraving.

    No amount of education seems to keep people from bidding 4 or 5 times more for the Pinkham branded Wolly than the Wolly branded wolly though.

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    It's a quiet Saturday morning and I'm browsing old magazines I've collected in soft copy.

    Below is maybe old news for the pro's on here but ...

    The first number of Platinum Print didn't have any ads, they wanted to see what the response would be to the start of this publication. The second number though (Nov 1913) features an ad from P&S on the Series I, II and III. No mention of the IV as is the case in the 1915 catalog page Dan shared earlier in this thread. Third number of this publication (Jan 1914) has an ad for the Wollensak Verito and the November number of 1914 has a Karl Struss ad for his lens. I've few images attached for the clipping collectors

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    OK, there's something new. I have 2 Struss lenses. I've never heard of nor seen a second series, double lens, f3 Struss. Anybody? I wonder if any got made?

    That also helps to date the Series IV Pinkham's. Some time after 1913, before 1915, or perhaps some time in 1915. What I did already know though was that the very early ones are in the aluminum mount with the lovely hand engraving and funky aperture, (seen one like this on ebay) and the later more common ones are in barrels with apertures made by Wollensak.

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    I appreciate seeing that Struss ad too. I'm sure everyone notices the aluminum barrels, engraving, and other details of Karl Struss Pictorial lenses seems to match Pinkham & Smith Semi-Achromatic lenses. It would be nice to know where they were made; did Struss get them from the same supplier as P&S? Did Struss get them from P&S?

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    Quote Originally Posted by goamules View Post
    I appreciate seeing that Struss ad too. I'm sure everyone notices the aluminum barrels, engraving, and other details of Karl Struss Pictorial lenses seems to match Pinkham & Smith Semi-Achromatic lenses. It would be nice to know where they were made; did Struss get them from the same supplier as P&S? Did Struss get them from P&S?

    Being lucky enough to have both on hand, I can say that there is nothing interchangeable about the machining or other pieces. Yes, they look very similar but I do not think they were made in the same place.

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    Re: Pinkham and Smith Special Portrait

    The attached gave me a chuckle ... first page is a wanted add in August 1909 for a Pinkham and Smith 5x7 lens ... no further identifiers. Second image is the earliest ad I found (so far) in the Camera Craft from June 1911 for a P&S SA. Third text comes from Photo Miniature from October 1910 and is an interesting narrative ...

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