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    Yes. For information on the Linhof Tech III, go to www.cameraquest.com, which will fill you in on all the details of the different versions and features. If you decide to go for a Tech III, which will probably be outside your budget, try to get one with a cammed lens (the serial number on the top of the cam should match the lens and the one on the bottom should match the camera), so that you can use the rangefinder. Otherwise, you can only use groundglass focusing, which is fine for many subjects, but part of the attraction of a Technika is the ability to shoot handheld with the rangefinder.

    A Crown or Speed Graphic, Busch Pressman D, or MPP is more likely to fit your budget.

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    Soph, it might be nice if you could find out exactly which 4x5 press camera Francesca actually used, and try to get the same model. I did a quick Google search, but none of the sites about Woodman that I found went into that level of detail on her equipment. Perhaps your sister's thesis would be a better source for that info.

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    Does your sister have experience with photo developing and printing? The reason I ask is that going from an exposed negative to a finished print using 4x5 is not as simple as dropping them off in Boots and picking the prints up the next day as you would with a small snapshot camera. You either need to develop them yourself or send them off to a specialist photo lab (unless you have a Pro photo lab near you).

    There is a way to avoid all this: Polaroids. Polaroid Type 55 is a peel-apart instant film. It gives both a negative and a positive print. Unfortunately you need to decide which one you want before exposing as the correct exposure for the negative is wrong for the print - do a search on this site for "Polaroid Type 55" for explanations. This only needs the developer gel gunk removing from the negative in a single chemical and is done in normal daylight - no darkroom required at any point. You do need a special holder (545 or 545i) however, which will cost about £50 second hand. Polaroid film is also available in B&W and colour without the negative - just a (slightly smaller than) 4x5" print.

    Also, (isn't there always an "also"...), in addition to the camera and lens you will need at a minimum, a few film holders (£5 - £10 each second hand) - each one holds two negatives and/or a Polaroid 545 holder. As these cameras do not have any metering, an exposure meter (£20 second hand) will be very useful, especially for indoor shots - outdoor exposures can be estimated with reasonable accuracy if shooting B&W or colour negative film.

    As mentioned in a previous reply, if your camera has a cam , it is essential that it matches the lens. If not, the rangefinder will not focus the lens accurately (the cam is what links the rangefinder to the lens - if the cam is not correct, the lens will not focus correctly). In this case, you are stuck with using the ground glass screen to focus, for which you will need a focussing loupe (a cheap plastic £10 one will do fine) - the problem here is that you can't practically hand-hold the camera and focus with a loupe, hence the importance of having of the correct cam unless the camera is to be used on a tripod at all times.

    Finally (for now...) read the main page of this forum: www.largeformatphotography.info - there are links to everything you ever wanted to know about LF cameras and their operation (and a lot more you don't...). It's a bit daunting because there is a lot there but it will answer any questions you can think of.

    As you probably noticed, buying and using an old Press camera is not as simple as popping in to Jessops and buying the latest digital wondercam. For those with a sympathetic outlook, it is infinitely more rewarding - that is why people like Franchesca Woodman used, and others continue to use, these types of camera.

    Cheers,

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    Sophie, The press cameras that would fit the bill are the Speed graphic type (and other US made press cameras as listed above) as your ebay item and also the UK made MPP Micropress. There are also metal Technical cameras such as the Linhof you mention and the MPP Microtechnical which are a bit heavier than the wood bodied press cameras and weigh 6lbs.

    If you are in UK and are thinking of buying on ebay it is better to buy in UK as from US you will get stung for import duties + VAT + handling charges so you need to increase the cost of any US bought item by 40%. Ouch!

    Linhof tend to be at a bit of a premium compared to the UK copy by MPP which are fairly common in UK and often available on ebay. See the website of the MPP users club for info on MPP products especially the MP Micropress and Microtechnical cameras.

    www.mppusers.freeuk.com

    I agree with recommendation of MXV and Mr Cad. Robert White though an excellent dealer tends to stock newer gear.

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    Soph,



    A synopsis of what appears to be the only book of Woodman's photographs published says:



    "Published in 1992 in Europe and distributed in the U.S., the first book with photographs by Francesca Woodman immediately created great respect for this enigmatic artist. David Levi Strauss writes in his essay: "The constitutive facts of Francesca Woodman's life are by now well known. We know that she was born in 1958, that she began taking photographs seriously at age thirteen or fourteen and continued this involvement into her twenty-second year, building up, in this brief time, a remarkably coherent and affecting body of work. And we know that on January 19, 1981, just two and a half months before her twenty-third birthday, she took her own life, leaping from a window on the Lower East Side in Manhattan to her death". This volume, containing many unpublished images, finally allows us to discover the full body of work of this artist, created in Rhode Island, Rome, New York, MacDowell Colony, New Hampshire: self-portraits, mise-en-scenes, nudes, and deeply emotional collage-like images. They all show her intense relation with the camera and her own self, long before this kind of picture-making became fashionable."



    Note the reference to the MacDowell Colony. It is only a few miles from me and the sort of place where they might have some information on the specifics of her camera(s). You can find ou tmore at their website: www.macdowellcolony.org



    I do have some affiliation with a gallery associated wtih them and if your contact does not bear any fruit I can make a phone call or two and see what happens. This was you can find out the exact camera she used.

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    Thanks to everyone for all their help!.

    I don't think I can find out the exact camera becasue there is very little written about her and the info my sister has came directly from her dad. I don't think anyone knows more than him.

    I am now going to watch the UK ebay (don't want to pay import taxes!) for something that looks okay. I am not sure whether it is worth a gamble on one that is cheap, advertised by someone who does not know how to test the various parts and then take it to someone to get it fixed? The adverts with less info are MUCH cheaper than the more detailed adverts!

    Thanks for the developing advice, my sister has done a couple of photography courses and has got basic (SLR???) camera that she has developed pictures from herself.

    If anyone sees anything suitable please let me know!

    Sophie

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    MPPs come up quite often on the UK eBay (I think there are 2 or 3 there now) but Graphics are quite rare - maybe one every 1 or 2 months (sometimes they are in the "Vintage & Collectables" category rather than the "Large Format" category).

    You are right to be concerned about the "dunno what this is, but please bid anyway" auctions. 99% for sure the seller knows exactly what it is, and what is wrong with it, and you will be buying a clunker only useful to the dedicated camera repair enthusiast!

    As always on eBay, caveat emptor...

    Good hunting ...

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    Soph,

    Don't overlook the Q&A forum at www.graflex.org Its a great resource for information on press cameras.
    "I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority"---EB White

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    Hi,

    Is there any way to get this thread deleted? I am worried my sister will come across it if she is searching for Franchesca Woodman on the internet!

    Would be very grateful if there is any way!

    Sophie

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