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    Optische Werke Göttingen Kiotar

    I couldn't resist, probably it's because of the Christmas time... i bidded low, and eventually won the lens.
    Here is the engraving on my last brass toy:
    Fa. Optische Werke Göttingen GmbH
    Kiotar 1:2.2/120 Serie III
    It's a small, fast projection lens (Petzval? Triplet? probably the former, from how it looks).
    There is no mention of a "Kiotar" on the Vademecum, and i couldn't find if "Optische Werke Göttingen" has anything to do with Emil Busch, Isco, or other major lens makers.

    IF it's a Petzval, it would be my first short one. I gave myself a good excuse to buy one: it could be the right focal for a 6x9 magazine.

    I appreciate any information about the lens and its maker.

    Here is a picture

    my best wishes of an happy new year for all of you

    CJ

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    Re: Optische Werke Göttingen Kiotar

    I am sorry for the error i made in my first post.
    Going by memory, i wrote that Busch and Isco could have something to do with the maker of this lens. Of course i was wrong: the two main Gottingen brands were Isco (which became part of Schneider), and R.Winkel GmbH (which became part of Zeiss, not Busch!).
    I found other Gottingen optics makers, which were active before and/or after WWII:
    W.Lambrecht
    Spindler & Hoyer
    August Fischer

    Some are known for binoculars or other optical products, and never made a camera lens.
    Maybe there are others, i just did a very short search, just to be certain that i goofed in my previous post
    The Vademecum is of no help.
    Sometime the city of origin could prove misleading: time ago i saw on the bay a big petzval wich had a similar maker's name, just the city was different, Munchen instead of Gottingen.
    The lens was advertised as a probable Rodenstock product, but when i made a serious search i found that the lens was made, almost for sure, by a lens work that was later known as Fraunhofer Institute. The Vademecum reports some informations under "Fraunhofer", but there is no mention of the original name.

    I feel sorry cause i can't read german books. There are nice studies about german cameras and lenses, very few (if any) were translated in english.
    I can only hope for the help of some north-european member, which has access to those books.
    Probably it's very old news, but i didn't read anything about it on this forum:
    an italian gentleman published a book on french historic lenses.
    The title is "Photographic lenses of the 1800's in France". It's printed by an italian publisher, in english. I don't know if there is an original version in italian, but i don't think so.
    I don't know the author, i think he's a big collector, living in Tuscany.
    What i know for sure is that other italian authors have done a very good job with their books. A very fine example is Danilo Cecchi's work about the history of Pentax.
    Another very interesting publication was the magazine Classic Camera. IIRC it was bi-lingual. A very worthy purchase, if you can find a number with articles that suit your interest.

    have fun

    CJ

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    Re: Optische Werke Göttingen Kiotar

    Optische Werke Göttingen = Schneider = ISCO.
    Different names at different periods.
    You are right about the so-called Rodenstock lens too!

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