APO-Ronar vs. APO-Ronar-CL ??

[Tin Can]

Here's an old thread that does not ever answer OP's question and I now have the same question.

I find almost nothing about APO-Ronar-CL lens.

I 'thought' I remembered reading that CL Ronar was wider angle than a plain Ronar. I am looking for coverage or angle de vista.

I cannot find that info anywhere.

Any ideas or links?

[Dan Fromm]

Randy, read the thread from the beginning, you missed all this: the Apo-Ronar CL is an Apo-Ronar with a linear aperture scale and elements cemented in the barrel. Otherwise the same lens.

For Rodenstock's coverage claims see http://1drv.ms/12OFqc2

[Tin Can]

Dan, I did read it. Twice

So you are saying it's the mount that is different, not any other feature?

Nothing here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenst...H#APO-Ronar-CL

or here which seems odd as isn't the CL a more modern and corrective mount? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWor...rmatLenses.pdf

I need a little more than same same, if possible.

Thanks Dan.

Link read, so it is same same.

[Dan Fromm]

Randy, CL's lens elements are glued in, plain Apo Ronar's lens elements are held in place by retaining rings.

The complete lenses have the same mount threadings, except the ones that don't.

Re the ones that don't, Apo Ronars made for some process camera manufacturers, e.g., Klimsch, were delivered in barrels whose mount threads didn't match those of equivalent lenses made for all comers. Bob Salomon, who knows, has said many times that there's no guarantee that Klimsch Apo Ronars have the same optimizations as ones made for all comers. On the other hand, there's also no guarantee that they have different optimizations. No one really knows which is the case, both are possible.

[Tin Can]

Thanks!

I have one coming in the mail.

[angusparker]

CL tend to have higher max aperture like f14 and be smaller and lighter. Really great choice for 760mm for example when compared to alternative options.

[Tin Can]

CL tend to have higher max aperture like f14 and be smaller and lighter. Really great choice for 760mm for example when compared to alternative options.

That's news I can use.

Thanks

[Dan Fromm]

Angus, f/14 is smaller than f/9.

Randy, read the catalog. Much of the information posted on bulletin boards just ain't so.

What you don't know will hurt you less than what you think you know that ain't so.

[angusparker]

Angus, f/14 is smaller than f/9.

Randy, read the catalog. Much of the information posted on bulletin boards just ain't so.

What you don't know will hurt you less than what you think you know that ain't so.

Yeah I know. I meant smaller I guess.

[europanorama]

1. What is NF-mount?
2. elsewhere bob meantioned if apo-ronar is in shutter then aperture increased from f9 to f11 fully open.
e.g. glennviews apo-ronar 480 f11 on novoflex D-system which has his own aperture no shutter. is glenn right?
3. Coating:
When its MC or has blue ring then ist multicoating, better for colorshooting.
I remember Zeiss Sonnars 180 and 300mm where is said non-MCs are better for b+w. the same for Apo-Ronars? Film only of course.