Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

  1. #1
    chassis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    1,974

    Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    Starting up my darkroom after a bunch of years of inactivity. To my disappointment I learned that Kodak no longer makes B&W enlarging paper, so I am converting to Ilford Multigrade RC for the time being. I will be printing 4x5 TXP negatives.

    The first question is do I gain anything from using a paper developer other than the Ilford Multigrade developer? My goals in the short term are to get my darkroom "game" back on, then I will explore other papers and chemicals. The Ilford MG paper + dev are simply to get me back in the swing of things.

    Enlarging workflow: I would like to do 16x20 prints, but have only done 8x10s in the past. I want to use the most efficient method of test printing and finding exposure from a 4x5 contact print to the 16x20 final print. Here is an idea I had, let me know what you think:

    1. 4x5 contact print to see the contrast range of the negative.
    2. 4x5 test print in the highlight area at 16x20 enlargement to get exposure time and f-stop.
    3. Adjust exposure and repeat step 2 until satisfactory highlights are obtained
    4. 4x5 test print in the shadow area.
    5. Change contrast filter and repeat steps 2-4 until the desired results are obtained.
    6. 16x20 full sheet trial print.
    7. Adjust contrast and exposure as needed based on the trial print.

    Thanks for any input.

  2. #2

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    now in Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    3,639

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    That method should work. Ilford Multigrade is fine paper and should not present any problems. I found that the FB version dried down more than the Kodak Polymax Fine-Art paper I'd been using, but that's a minor point. A little practice should sort your method out. My tests suggest that modern cold-tone papers are not strongly affected by choice of developers.

  3. #3
    chassis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    1,974
    Thanks Mark!

  4. #4
    Unwitting Thread Killer Ari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Ottawa, Canada
    Posts
    6,286

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    Your steps sound good, I would just do away with #1, contact print.
    A contact print will give you more tonal range than an enlargement, so it's slightly misleading.
    Soon enough, you'll get used to evaluating your tests in the highlight & shadow areas well enough to get to a good working print in less time, and with less paper waste.

  5. #5
    jp's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    5,631

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    Ilford MG RC is good stuff. I never really liked Kodak's polycontrast line of RC paper.

    I have not used the Ilford developer. I have used various dektol strengths and bw-65 developer; it's all happy with the Ilford paper.

    Just make some bigger test strips for printing. It's no different than small prints really. I'd get the contrast and exposure to my satisfaction, then print a test piece slightly lighter, then dry it with a hair dryer or microwave to help you understand the drydown. It's not bad with Ilford RC papers.

  6. #6

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    101

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    Multigrade dev is definitely fine to get started with. Reliable stuff.

  7. #7
    chassis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    1,974

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    Today I picked up some MGIV paper and MG developer, so I will give it a try and see what happens.

  8. #8
    Roger Cole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Suburbs of Atlanta
    Posts
    1,553

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    No problem at all with the developer. I like LPD because it lasts so long at working strength poured back into the bottle but any of the "normal" paper developers should work fine.

    I always preferred Ilford to Kodak in RC paper anyway because I like the "pearl" surface far better than anything Kodak had in RC paper. I don't like RC glossy (for B&W, I like it ok for color) and Kodak's N was too dull for my tastes, with a pretty sever apparent hit on d-max too, while the E had too much texture. There are many excellent papers on the market now so you won't lack for good ones to try, but MGIV RC is capable of some very nice prints.

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Dec 1997
    Location
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,697

    Re: Switching to Ilford paper from Kodak; enlarging workflow

    Quote Originally Posted by chassis View Post
    Today I picked up some MGIV paper and MG developer, so I will give it a try and see what happens.
    One thing that's going to happen is that you'll go through a box of paper pretty fast with all those test prints. As long as your negatives are correctly exposed there won't be a huge variation in your basic exposure times and contrast settings from one negative to another at any given print size. So with a little experience you should be able to make a decent proof just by looking at the negative, then you can go from there. Leaving the aperture on the enlarger lens one or two stops from wide open (which is the optimum aperture for most enlarger lenses) all the time will eliminate that potential variable.
    Brian Ellis
    Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do criticize them you'll be
    a mile away and you'll have their shoes.

Similar Threads

  1. RA-4/Wet Color...Is it worth trying for a newb?
    By JosephBurke in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 4-Nov-2009, 08:36

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •