Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16

Thread: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

  1. #1
    Nathan Appel Nathan Appel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    71

    First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    I'm building a 4x5 camera, and to go with the "diy" concept, I want to build the bellows also. I've researched some posts here, and a few other 'outdated' links (materials that are no longer accessable) If anyone has any tips or ideas, suggestions, comments, please, let me know! This is for a TAPERED bellows, the materials I am planning on using:
    1: sheet metal to build the frame or bottom of the bellows
    2: bk5 fabric for inner darkout material
    3. 1oz pigskin or sheepskin leather for outer bellows material
    4. HH-66 vinyl fabric adhesive
    5. Manila folders for the "ribs"

    does this sound ok? Thanks, and again, any feedback is greatly appreciated

  2. #2

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,135

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    1 oz leather is awfully thick, 1/64 " ( .015" - .016" ) if you're going to use leather
    then head on over Columbia Organ Leathers, they have a leather there that's almost a dead
    on match for the old leather bellows thickness ( .008" ).

  3. #3
    Nathan Appel Nathan Appel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    71

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    Thanks Jim!!!!

  4. #4
    Deardorff Sales and service
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    414

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    In the 40s Deardorff used Sheepskin for bellows on the Baby Deardorff and some 5x7s. That leather held up surprisingly well. I have a few with that bellows and your description is identical except for the glue. Good luck
    Ken Hough Deardorff Refinisher since 1982
    Deardorff Factory refinisher / remanufacturer 1982-88
    Deardorff Factory Historian 82-88
    Deardorff Cameras on Facebook
    www.deardorffcameras.0catch.com

  5. #5
    ic-racer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,763

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    I used Lexan or polycarbonate for the ribs, but had not seen anyone else doing that. Ribs less likely to get wrinkled, they can bend and recover shape.

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    680

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    I used Lexan or polycarbonate for the ribs, but had not seen anyone else doing that. Ribs less likely to get wrinkled, they can bend and recover shape.
    What thickness of Lexan, sounds like an excellent choice?

    Curt

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,135

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    HH-66 and lexan might not play well together.

  8. #8
    Nathan Appel Nathan Appel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    71

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    I used Lexan or polycarbonate for the ribs, but had not seen anyone else doing that. Ribs less likely to get wrinkled, they can bend and recover shape.
    Wouldn't the lexan or other super rigid material potentially "chew" thru the leather or dark cloth, especially with constant wear?

  9. #9
    ic-racer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,763

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post
    What thickness of Lexan, sounds like an excellent choice?

    Curt
    I used Lexan from McMaster Carr I think it was 0.02inches
    .http://www.largeformatphotography.in...8&postcount=59

    Also, Gortite bellows are made with .010 mylar (polyethylene) stiffeners.
    Last edited by ic-racer; 21-Jul-2011 at 19:51.

  10. #10
    Deardorff Sales and service
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    414

    Re: First time making bellows, is this an "ok" plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Appel View Post
    Wouldn't the lexan or other super rigid material potentially "chew" thru the leather or dark cloth, especially with constant wear?
    Yes it does unless you "soften the edges" w/ some 400 wet or dry sandpaper. Use wet it cuts better. On the corners go to a scrap booking store and get a corner cutter. Different radius are available. The incompatipility of glues can take months if not years. Some bellows after assembly will "gas out" and form blisters. The solution is the new brand of water based contact glues like PL Bond. It does not react with anything.
    Ken Hough Deardorff Refinisher since 1982
    Deardorff Factory refinisher / remanufacturer 1982-88
    Deardorff Factory Historian 82-88
    Deardorff Cameras on Facebook
    www.deardorffcameras.0catch.com

Similar Threads

  1. Walker Evans & Time
    By Annie M. in forum On Photography
    Replies: 60
    Last Post: 18-Oct-2009, 04:04
  2. Camera Bellows from England ceased trading
    By GPS in forum Resources
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 14-Dec-2008, 22:13
  3. Where did all the snow go?? Is it time for "plan B?"
    By John Kasaian in forum Location & Travel
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 6-May-2004, 10:25
  4. Synthetic Bellows Reconditioning
    By David R Munson in forum Cameras & Camera Accessories
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 8-Jun-2001, 13:43
  5. Making a Bellows
    By Jeff Rivera in forum Cameras & Camera Accessories
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-Jul-1998, 11:11

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •