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    A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    OK, I want to develop my own BW film, I am a digital guru, who is finding out that film looks way better

    What will I need to process 4x5 film negatives? I dont want to print them just yet, I will get to that later, can someone point me to a list of instructions/materials supplies needed?

    All I have in inventory so far is a darkroom timer I picked up at the thrift store for 5 bucks...

    Sorry to ask such a multi level complex question!

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    Kevin Kolosky
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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    Go on Ebay and for 5 bucks invest in a used copy of Fred Picker's book called Zone VI Workshop. You will learn a lot about Exposing and developing Black and white 4 x 5 film from that Book.

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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    Quote Originally Posted by nickademusss View Post
    OK, I want to develop my own BW film, I am a digital guru, who is finding out that film looks way better

    What will I need to process 4x5 film negatives? I dont want to print them just yet, I will get to that later, can someone point me to a list of instructions/materials supplies needed?

    All I have in inventory so far is a darkroom timer I picked up at the thrift store for 5 bucks...

    Sorry to ask such a multi level complex question!
    Go to Ilford's website below, and look at the "Getting Started" section.

    http://www.ilfordphoto.com/applications/page.asp?n=16

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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    If film looks better than Digital to you, then you need to work more on your digital. There's no magic bullit.
    Wilhelm (Sarasota)

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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    If you're not making prints how would you know what "film" looks like? Making the negative isn't an end in itself, it's a step on the way to making a print.
    Brian Ellis
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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    I have a very that details continuous agitation daylight rotary developing. My developer of choice is Rollo Pyro, although you can adapt this system and developing time to your own developer/film. Best of luck!

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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    For starters without a darkroom, you will need at least the below stuff for developing films. If they sounds a bit technical, you will need a bit of help from google and wiki.
    1. Changing bag (You can DIY one from some black garbage bag and rubber band, they are needed for people without a Darkroom)
    2. Some form of volume measuring equipment for liquid
    3. A full set developing tank
    4. Chemicals:
    * E-6 is for slides (You will need to read manual for timing and temperature, mostly are at 38 degree)
    * C-41 is for Negative (You will need to read manual for timing and temperature, mostly are at 38 degree)
    * B&W developer, Stop Bath and fixer for B&W films (You can refer to http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php?doc=pushproc for timing and temperature of each developer)
    5. Timer, can be a Handphone.
    6. Wetting Agent, hardener bla bla bla... (Optional)

    If you have any doubt on how to use them and other stuff, google and youtube for video.

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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    Its a good video too. I had a recent customer point it out to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Gordon View Post
    I have a very that details continuous agitation daylight rotary developing. My developer of choice is Rollo Pyro, although you can adapt this system and developing time to your own developer/film. Best of luck!
    "Great things are accomplished by talented people who believe they will
    accomplish them."
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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    The easiest and most boring is to develop in trays. You could use a Unicolor (click on the LF Homepage on the blue banner at the top of this page for a link to Gray Wolf Phillip's article) or maybe a "daylight" tank (avoid the Yankee---avoid the Yankee--avoid the Yankee. One more time: Avoid the Yankee) You might also find some hard rubber tanks and hangers. Aside from something to develop your film in and a dark place to load, unload, and do the developing, you'll need:
    a graduate for measuring and mixing chemicals,
    a plastic to stir stick to stir with (a swizzle stick) if mixing powdered chemicals
    bottles to store your chemicals, a plastic funnel to fill your bottles,
    maybe gloves if you go the tray route, and
    clothes pins to hang up your film to dry.
    A Thermometer for taking the temps of your chemicals.
    If you are using a processor, little plastic measuring cups I find are handy (mine are Betty Crockers from Walmart)
    And of course a timer which you already have.

    If you don't have a local camera store that supports darkroom-istas you can order all this stuff from someplace like Freestyle.
    Have fun!
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    Re: A real Newb question (what do I need?)

    If you want a minimalist approach all you need is fixer - S. Thiosulfate. It is sold at photo, aquarium and pool supply stores.

    Developer you can make from instant coffee, baking soda and a vitamin C tablet -- Google for 'caffenol'. You can make the 'S. Carbonate' by baking the baking soda [it is, after all, baking soda and made to be baked].
    http://www.digitaltruth.com/data/caffenol.php
    Apug thread on making S. Carbonate

    Stop bath is a 1:3 dillution of clear vinegar.

    A drop of dish detergent and a splash of isopropyl alcohol in a quart of distilled water makes an adequate final wash so you don't get spots on the negative.

    A few glass baking dishes or tupperware containers will work great as trays.

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