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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    oh, im sorry. my bad. anyway, when mounting the lens, does it thread to the board or there is some sort of retaining ring that sandwiches the board just like in beseler enlarger lenses?

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    Quote Originally Posted by alaric View Post
    oh, im sorry. my bad. anyway, when mounting the lens, does it thread to the board or there is some sort of retaining ring that sandwiches the board just like in beseler enlarger lenses?
    It's the latter. The board has a hole. If it's the sort of lens that needs to mount using threads (and these are uncommon for the sorts of lenses you will be using), the threads are provided by a ring called a flange that is mounted onto the board with screws. SK Grimes provides this service, for example. Most modern view camera lenses mount by extending through a hole of about the right size and being held in place using a retaining ring. Make sure the lenses you buy include the retaining ring, though these can be replaced for a few dozen dollars.

    That much of a lens board is specific to the shutter, not the camera manufacturer. The hole for a Copal No. 1 shutter, for example, will be the same across Arca-Swiss, Sinar, Linhof, Cambo, Toyo, and so on.

    The outer size and shape of the lens board is, on the other hand, specific to each manufacturer. Horseman has made cameras that are compatible with Sinar, so some Horseman boards will on a Sinar. All boards marked "Sinar" will work on your F1--all Sinar cameras use the same lens boards.

    Many camera manufacturers, particularly those who make field cameras, have adopted the Linhof Technika lens boards. But the other makers of monorail view cameras each have their own design, for the most part.

    So, at a store like KEH, look for "Sinar" and a hole the right size for the shutter you want to mount in it. If you buy a 210mm Rodenstock Sironar-N or Schneider Symmar-S mounted in a Copal No. 1 shutter, you'll need a board that says "Sinar 41 hole" or "Sinar 42 hole" from a place like KEH. On ebay, it will probably say something like "Sinar lens board for Copal No. 1 shutter". Or, if you are lucky, you'll find a lens advertised like this: "Rodenstock Sironar-N with Copal No. 1 shutter mounted on a Sinar board". That one will pop right on your camera with no issue.

    (There is one type of Sinar board you must avoid. These are labeled "DBS" and often had a lens mounted in them with a shutter-shaped device that is not, in fact, a shutter. These are intended to be used with the Sinar external shutter, and will not be usable with lenses that have shutters built into them already. DBS-mounted lenses are often cheap, but don't be sucked in--the camera-mounted shutter you'll need to use them is itself many hundreds of dollars. And it's weight and complication you don't need. Thus, avoid lenses described as "Sinar Sinaron 210/5.6 in DBS mount." Look for lenses that have Compur or Copal shutters--which are used on nearly all relatively modern German and Japanese lenses--and flat boards that have a simple hole in them of the right size.)

    Rick "the choices are simple once you've pushed past the relatively rare exceptions" Denney

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    Video "How To Mount A View Camera Lens"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JjzwjO5ZSE

    A classical information about lenses where you can read the shutter size (shtr size):
    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...s/LF4x5in.html

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    Alaric,

    From where are you in the Philippines? I have the Sinar F1 and P2 and a number of lenses...maybe I can help you with your queries.

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    I have a Sinar compatibility question:
    Are Sinar and Cambo back analogous? Or Sinar/Toyo? I'm looking at Chinese handheld cameras that are pre-built for various back types, and they only sell Sinar, Toyo and Horseman versions. I'm wondering if the Cambo back I currently use on on my 4x5 monorail is compatible with any of these.

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    Sendero,

    Even not being 100% sure I don't think so, as the rail connection between Sinar and Toyo model being quite different and visually not interchangeable.
    More used users in this specific brand could give you a better advice than me,


    Cheers,

    Renato

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    Sendero,

    I assume you are speaking of the Dayi cameras. Unfortunately, backs among the various cameras are incompatible with one another. The exceptions are Sinar and Horseman, which can use the same backs, lens boards and bellows, while a Cambo ground glass back will fit a Super Graphic.

    Kumar

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    Are there back adapters?

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    Re: sinar f1 compatibility issues

    None that I know of. Also, the Cambo SC groundglass frame will fit a Sinar F/F1 Graflok frame. It will not fit an F2/C2/P2/X frame.

    Kumar

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