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    4x10 panoramic camers

    I'm new here on LF and ben looking for some info on 4x10 camers. Just not finding what I was looking for so I thought I'd ask.
    I shoot a Fuji 6x17 with a fixed 105 mm lens. I'm looking at getting a 4x10 camera. I'm kinda looking at a Canham 4x10 camera. Its ben a long time cents I shoot any LF. Use to run a Brown 24x36 camera at a print shop shooting line halftones and color seps. I'm looking for something I can shoot distant landscapes with. I picked up some lens.
    Schneider 1:5.5 360mm Tele-Arton
    Schneider 1:5.5 270mm Tele-Arton
    Schneider 1:5.6 90mm Super-Angulon
    I know I'm putting the cart ben for the horse but I got a good deal on them.
    How well will these work for what I like to do?
    Also is the Canham film holder hold 1 or 2 sheets of film. What trypod and head would work well with this set up. Going to be hikeing around with it.

    Thanks

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    I don't think these lenses will even cover 4x10. You need a 273mm image circle and that would barely cover with no movements.

    I'd look at APO Symmars or maybe Nikkor M.

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    The 90mm won't cover 4x10. I'm not sure about he others. Often tele lenses don't cover nearly the area that others do.
    Two sheets on nearly all film holders.
    I shoot 4x10 using a splitter board on my 8x10.
    I like my 210mm, 305, and 450mm the most. Do some research before you buy anything else. There's little reason to buy brand new gear in this day and age. So much used stuff for pennies.

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    AFIK the two Tele Artons are 4x5 lenses, I have a 270 that allows NO movements to speak of, I think the 360 is the same coverage. Not to mention the telephoto headaches...

    I shoot 4x10 sometimes, using an 8x10 and dividers. I like the 210 and 240 lenses.
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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    The 360 might cover 5x7, but it will not cover 4x10.
    Lachlan.

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    To answer your second question:

    Canham 4x10 film holders are double sided- hold two sheets of film.

    Look for a light weight carbon fiber tripod and a light weight magnesium 3-way pan head.

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    Given you have these lenses, why not get a new 6x17 camera that allows different lenses?
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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    Hey vinny
    you said "splitter board on 8x10"
    Is that on the camera back-as opposed to modified darkslides on the filmholder.
    Not long ago soomething on the back of a Deardorf was mentioned in this regard
    Would you please tell us more-
    I have shot a Fuji6x7 for a long time and am often disappointed in the fixed lens length, so I figured my most economical remedy would be to use my 8x10 & lenses. "Blanking" half the back at a time sounds like a great idea [as opposed to the darkslide thing=confused me]

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    Many models of the Deardorff have wooden inserts that go into a track in the back and block off half the sheet of film (and half the view on the ground glass) in both vertical and horizontal orientations. (2 different splitters.) The do work, and you can get two panoramic-shaped photos per sheet of film on 5X7 or 8x10. You just use regular sheet film holders.

    This works, though there are a few obvious inconveniences, the main two being:

    1. You have to raise or lower the lens to get it centered on the half of the sheet of film you are exposing when using a vertical splitter. This means on every exposure you make you aren't really working anywhere in the middle of your image circle. With a vertical splitter you'd be shifting the front or back.

    2. You better keep good notes so you know that the second time you use that same sheet of film, you are framing and exposing the half you blanked off last time. Alternatively, you could shoot one 4X10 per sheet, but then you are wasting film and could just as easily pencil in a 4X10 in the middle of your ground glass and shoot the full 8x10 sheet.

    Personally, I have the Canham 4X10 and I've been very happy with it after I figured out its controls, which were a lot different than what I was used to. Much more convenient than lugging around an 8X10.

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    Re: 4x10 panoramic camers

    Ed, as kevin said, just a black piece of wood (mdf) held in place by friction.
    I like it better than the 1/2 darkslide method since i can't stand framing a shot with all that unused ground glass. I just place a piece of art tape on the shot 1/2 of the holder. Also, i don't like the idea of pulling one darkslide and adding another, then repeating that. Room for error and dust. The camera movements to center he lens aren't an issue for me. In a Perfect world i'd have a 4x10 with a 4x5 back along with the 8x10 and an intern to carry it all.

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