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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Thanks, I'd like to see the article and comparisons mentioned!

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by George Kara View Post
    I happen to have the cooke ps 945 and a P & S Series II semi - achromat. Other than being "soft focus" these lenses are completely different. The P&S is an absolute beast to use correctly. The chemical focus thing takes alot of mastery. It is totally unique and one of a kind.

    The 945 is very very easy to use, has a wide range of softness to dial and just a wonderful predictable flexible modern portrait lens. The old P&S is a one trick horse - but what a magnificent horse it is.
    Exactly right, but the Cooke is a copy of the Series IV P&S visual quality, not the Series 1 or 2. The Series IV #2 that sold here for $2,000 last week is a thousand times more attractive than the Cooke to me. To each his own though.

    If someone wants to send me their Cooke, I have 9" Hyperion and 9-ish inch Eidoscop that we could shoot side by side. My nearest Series IV is 12" though.

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    95% of the people with great glass are incapable of making photographs that justify the expenditure. Even Cooke cannot find a great photograph to post as an example of the best use of their lens. If you like the look of the lens, find a high quality rapid rectilinear (Darlot, Voigtlander, Suter, Wollensak (Versar, Voltas)) and work with that instead. Note: there are many, many RR's out there made by other companies that will never sharply focus, so buy carefully.

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Toyon View Post
    95% of the people with great glass are incapable of making photographs that justify the expenditure. Even Cooke cannot find a great photograph to post as an example of the best use of their lens. If you like the look of the lens, find a high quality rapid rectilinear (Darlot, Voigtlander, Suter, Wollensak (Versar, Voltas)) and work with that instead. Note: there are many, many RR's out there made by other companies that will never sharply focus, so buy carefully.
    Comparing the Series IV P&S (or the Cooke PS945) to a RR, even a fast one is more than a stretch. I have the f4 Euryscop and it is simply a very sharp very fast rapid rectilinear. Versar's and other extra repid f6 aplanats are simply less fast very sharp lenses. I do love the look they give and the nice bokeh of the ultra simple design, but I class them very differently than a P&S IV or an Eidoscop. The Nicola Perscheid and it's family members had some math that gave them the glow. They may be a modified RR, but the magic is in the mod. Eve was a modification of Adam, but Oh my!

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Galli View Post
    Comparing the Series IV P&S (or the Cooke PS945) to a RR, even a fast one is more than a stretch. I have the f4 Euryscop and it is simply a very sharp very fast rapid rectilinear. Versar's and other extra repid f6 aplanats are simply less fast very sharp lenses. I do love the look they give and the nice bokeh of the ultra simple design, but I class them very differently than a P&S IV or an Eidoscop. The Nicola Perscheid and it's family members had some math that gave them the glow. They may be a modified RR, but the magic is in the mod. Eve was a modification of Adam, but Oh my!
    That may be largely true, but a good RR will provide some important features, a wonderful transition from focus to out of focus, a concentration of forces in the center 20 degrees of the lens, and other less effable qualities to the light bending. I would say, become a master of humbler lenses before buying a Cooke. Otherwise it is like giving egg tempera to a finger painterteen. Its just going to be mud. Interesting mud perhaps, showing a trace of the brilliant capability of the medium, but a waste of money. Collectors are selfish, unless they loan out their "instruments" in the way that owners of Guarneri's loan out their violins.

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Galli View Post
    .......Eve was a modification of Adam, but Oh my!
    Definitely a feature enhanced model!
    When I was 16 I thought my father the stupidest man in the world; when I reached 21, I was astounded by how much he had learned in just 5 years!

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard K. View Post
    Definitely a feature enhanced model!
    And I'm not just ribbing you...
    When I was 16 I thought my father the stupidest man in the world; when I reached 21, I was astounded by how much he had learned in just 5 years!

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    I ve searched pretty good, and examples of head portraits are few and far between. The photo on the Cooke site-the male portrait on the left of the page is nice...don t know if it is a contemporary photo or not. Many have suggested a side by side comparison of the effects of different portrait lenses including the PS 945. This comparison doesn't seem to exist. The argument that one needs to learn the lens...it should not be rocket science to product a full aperture portrait with this lens...one purchases the lens for how it renders light in respect to other lenses. If there is no difference in the rendering or if it is to subtle to readily identify, then there is not much to sell here, in my not so humble opinion.

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Dave, FWIW I think you should get one and produce brilliant work on full plate with it.

    Just when ya thought you had yourself talked out of it.

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    Re: Post some Cooke PS 945 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Petzval Paul View Post
    Thanks, I'd like to see the article and comparisons mentioned!
    Paul, if you'll PM me your email address, I'll send you Ted's article...otherwise, my recollection is that it was the Nov/Dec 2005 VCMag (I'd post it here but don't want to incur "the wrath from high atop the thing" in New Mexico).

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