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    Will this work as a shutter?

    OK a few of my lenses are too wide or protrude too far to use with the Sinar Auto Shutter. Is there a shutter that can clamp on (and with variable diameter) to the front of a lens?

    If not, will this work: make a rectangle with a square hole cut in it big enough to view the entire front lens element. Have another rectangle cut with a slit of same width but of varying heights. Incorporate a system that will keep them together while the one with the slit starts with slit above the opening and slides (free-falls) past the opening and stops once the slit has completely cleared. It would be solid above and below the slit to prevent light passing other than through the falling slit. Workable? I calculate that a 1" slit would be roughly a 1/15 s exposure, a 4" is 1/8 s and 1/4" is 1/30 s - can someone confirm? (I just simply used that d=16 t ^^2 (d= 1/2 g t-squared) )
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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    I guess what I'm asking about in the second example is kind of like a front mounted focal plane shutter...
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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    you can front mount a packard. or get a recessed lens board that has a packard on the rear. (like this) or just send me the lenses that stick through and i will use them.
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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    Richard,

    search here or google 'guillotine shutter', it's what you describe, usually powered by gravity and rubber bands. Can be made from foam-core and an old dark slide.

    Have fun with it, post pics when it's up and running.

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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    Richard, drop-shutters where used in the early days of photography up to now in sensitometers. But ceased because of low efficiency and too slow for modern materials.

    Have fun

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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    front mounted drop shutters work fine with modern materials....here's an example of a long Knuckler with TMY 400 8x10: (at f5.6 with a soft focus lens)
    http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/to...nted-scan.html

    and

    http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/to...-sec-f5-6.html

    and

    http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/to...t-set-2-5.html

    and here's an image of the arca swiss 8x10 with the lens and shutter (the lens weighs over 13 pounds and is huge...that's not 4x5! the lens board is 171mm x 171mm). It sits on an Arca Swiss B-2 ballhead. Yes, that clothespin on the shutter is the shutter release (although there is also a socket for a cable release, this one is a whole lot more fun!)

    http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/to...ecutioner.html

    So the front mount shutter works just fine with modern materials.... and this particular shutter was made of carbon fiber materials and does not use any rubber bands - just gravity... and its adjustable to give 1/8 to 1/250 times (via slit width). It works fine with TMY and TriX.

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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don7x17 View Post
    ...here's an example of a long Knuckler with TMY 400 8x10: (at f5.6 with a soft focus lens)
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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    Outstanding Don. The shots and the aparatus! So, how does one adjust for:

    a.) barrel diameter (my lenses vary from about 2.5" to 5.5" (19" Sigmar)
    b.) slit width (shutter speed)?

    Then:
    Where, how, does one get one (is this a Ron Tinchner (?) Shutter) or is this home-made?

    Many thanks for the reply, Don. This may be exactly what I need and I love the fact that it's gravity powered!

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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter K View Post
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    Re: Will this work as a shutter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter K View Post
    But ceased because ...... too slow for modern materials.

    Have fun

    Peter
    It should be fun...I get 1/125 s for a 1/64" slit (but that may be thin enough for significant diffraction effects!). Better to use 1/4" slit for 1/30 s...
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