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    B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Started shooting and processing B&W sheet film in a Jobo 3005 drum. Received some good advise for starting with an 8x10 camera, which was get some Efke 25, because it is relatively inexpensive, and shoot way. I've been happily shooting with Efke 25 and started using some Ilford FP4+ and TPX along the way. And, I've noticed that I have far fewer "flaws" (little spots/imperfections) in the FP4+ and TPX negatives.

    Questions:

    1) Are these flaws more likely due to my handling and processing of the film, or more likely due to due to manufacturing imperfections in the Efke 25 emulsion?

    2) If the flaws are more likely due to my handling and processing, is there something that makes Efke 25 more prone to damage and what can be done to avoid it? Or, is this just one of those [turn on Foghorn Leghorn accent] "Son, welcome to the world large format film photography!" situations.

    3) Any recommended articles, books, etc. on handling sheet film and processing to avoid imperfections?

    Thanks,

    Jay

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Kodak and Ilford harden the gelatin in the emulsion of their films.

    The gelatin in the emulsion of Efke films is very soft when wet.

    It is more prone to damage.

    The "Film Developing Cookbook" by S.Anchell and B.Troop is loaded with valuable information and is well worth reading.

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    White spot, black spot, opaque spot, clear spot??? What kinds of spots were you seeing.
    The most common is going to be the clear spot caused by dust on the film at the time of exposure.

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    White spot, black spot, opaque spot, clear spot??? What kinds of spots were you seeing.
    The most common is going to be the clear spot caused by dust on the film at the time of exposure.
    The image below is should not have the dark spots (except the darker area on the right edge, which is part of the subject hair) and the little pin prick size white spots are not dust on the negative. The scan resolution in about 600 to 800 spi.



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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    When you say the white spots are not dust on the negative, what are they then? Are you looking at the negative and seeing something or do they just show up while scanning?

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Dahlgren View Post
    When you say the white spots are not dust on the negative, what are they then? Are you looking at the negative and seeing something or do they just show up while scanning?
    The pin point sized white spots are black little points in the emulsion of the negative.

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Or dust on the scanner glass?

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gem Singer View Post
    Or dust on the scanner glass?
    There is some dust on the scanner that shows up as dust, but the dark spots are are not and the little pin point size spot are in the emulsion.

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    White spots that appear on the negative as density are either
    as a result holders that have scratches...light bouncing back through the
    film. Or less Likely embedded in the emulsion at the factory.

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    Re: B&W sheet film imperfection or processing problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Blank View Post
    White spots that appear on the negative as density are either
    as a result holders that have scratches...light bouncing back through the
    film. Or less Likely embedded in the emulsion at the factory.

    Sounds like the general consensus is that it is my handling and processing that are the most likely causes of the non-dust spots. Thanks...

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