Just imagine if Ansel had a cell phone instead, and his primary objective was sharing
the shot on the web. What a rich visual heritage that would represent!
Just imagine if Ansel had a cell phone instead, and his primary objective was sharing
the shot on the web. What a rich visual heritage that would represent!
Tim,
While I am confident you are correct at the "quantum" level, I will disagree at the practical level. With over 28 billion colors to work with (and re-map, using layer blending modes such a luminosity, hue, and saturation), we are beyond what the human eye can differentiate except in a direct A/B comparison, and it is certainly possible to arrive at a digital image that is believable as a Velvia image in terms of color.
I have personally shot with Velvia 50, Velvia, 100, Provia, and Astia, and several generations of digital DSLRs. I processed all of those images in Photoshop to arrive at my final print and web files. These images have been used (mix and match) in all sorts of venues (museums, galleries, commercially published books, magazines, framed prints...). Not once has anyone ever commented about differences in the images, or lack of consistency between the prints (including color palette). Admittedly, I am not consciously trying to mimic Velvia, or any other film - I am simply trying to achieve a color palette that fits my vision of the world.
If you are ever in New York, let's get together and I will bring some prints. And you can tell me which film was used or if the print came from a digital source. There's noting better than a blind test to resolve issues like this. Whoever wins buys dinner.
dittoI have personally shot with Velvia 50, Velvia, 100, Provia, and Astia, and several generations of digital DSLRs. I processed all of those images in Photoshop to arrive at my final print and web files. These images have been used (mix and match) in all sorts of venues (museums, galleries, commercially published books, magazines, framed prints...). Not once has anyone ever commented about differences in the images, or lack of consistency between the prints (including color palette). Admittedly, I am not consciously trying to mimic Velvia, or any other film - I am simply trying to achieve a color palette that fits my vision of the world.
Thanks,
Kirk
at age 73:
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep"
Congratulations for you have truly found your vision of the world!
I have personally shot with Velvia 50, Velvia, 100, Provia, and Astia, and several generations of digital DSLRs. I processed all of those images in Photoshop to arrive at my final print and web files. These images have been used (mix and match) in all sorts of venues (museums, galleries, commercially published books, magazines, framed prints...). Not once has anyone ever commented about differences in the images, or lack of consistency between the prints (including color palette). Admittedly, I am not consciously trying to mimic Velvia, or any other film - I am simply trying to achieve a color palette that fits my vision of the world.
Thomas
Hey guys, have you ever noticed how many of the photographs published by "Outdoor Photograper" were made with Velvia!
Yes David, and I think his sister, and son are well known photographers, but when I was a student at Brooks in the late 50's, the elder Josef was the photographer we admired.
Lynn
No surprise really. For the most part these magazines are publishing the same fairly small group of guys who have been doing this for decades and have huge libraries of chromes they've shot over the years. Even for somebody like Dykinga who's shooting digital now, the number of "keeper" film shots in his library still probably far outnumbers the number of digital shots he has.Hey guys, have you ever noticed how many of the photographs published by "Outdoor Photograper" were made with Velvia!
Jeff Kohn
The Majestic Landscape
Bill Poole
"Speak softly, but carry a big camera."
I'm familiar with Ansel's Moonrise shot. I think it still would have been quicker to stitch the shot with a DSLR than to setup his 8x10 camera, install the filter, focus, etc.
I'm pretty handy both ways. If it were a simple flat stitch I could do it quicker with a DSLR. If it was multiple row stitch the VC would be quicker.
Thanks,
Kirk
at age 73:
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep"
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