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    Quote Originally Posted by rdenney View Post
    Some basic answers for you:

    1. The Type 55 P/N Polaroid film is rather special, in that instead of the paper negative it uses a real film negative (plus the positive print, of course). After making the exposure and processing like regular Polaroid film (more about this in a second), you would peel the paper surround off the film and slide it into a holding tank that was filled with, as I recall from dim memory, a sodium sulfite solution. The plastic tanks can still be had. All of this was done in daylight, so it was really quite easy. The Type 55 negative had a somewhat narrow tonal range, but it was quite usable. The point is: If you have some 55, you might either want to equip yourself for dealing with the negatives, or learn on something else and wait until you are ready (or sell it someone who wants it for what it is). It is discontinued and it seems a shame to waste the negatives through inability to deal with them.

    1a. You shoot Polaroid sheet film by moving the lever to the O position, insert the film until it stops, pull out the paper leader (which acts as a dark slide) until it stops, make the exposure, push the paper leader back in, flip the lever the other way, and pull it all out as a package. That last pull bursts the chemical packs and squeegies the chemical into the sandwich between the negative and the positive. Then, wait for the prescribed amount of time (different for different films and temperature dependent), and peel it apart. At that point, you would peel off the paper from the edge of the plastic Type 55 negative and slide it into the clearing tank.

    1b. The modern Fujiroid approach. There is no longer any Polaroid sheet film that goes into your 545 holder (though you can use Quickload film in that holder). But you can get a Fuji PA-45 (or Polaroid 405--again fuzzy memory there) holder and buy the Fuji 4x5 pack film. Follow the instructions that come with it. If you just want to play and get instant feedback, that's the best way for now.

    2. The Readyload system was offered by Kodak for their paper-sleeved conventional film, but they have discontinued it. Your Readyload holder is therefore basically useless, unless you come into a stock of old Readload film.

    3. The Quickload system is still current, though, as you have discovered, Fuji doesn't offer many films using that system. That film will work both in your Quickload holder and in the Polaroid 545 holder. But it's not instant film--it's just conventional film that uses the paper sleeve so you don't have to load film holders.

    4. Sheet film holders are most commonly made by Riteway, Fidelity, or Lisco. A visit to KEH.com will show many of these for sale. The newer ones are plastic, and use an FRP dark slide. You pull the dark slide, rotate one end to open the film slot, hold the film with the notches on the upper right (so that the emulsion is facing you), and slide it into the film holder. Then, fold the end back over and reinsert the dark slide. In the field, you slide it under the ground glass, pull the dark slide, make the exposure, replace the dark slide, and remove the holder. The holders hold two sheets and have two dark slides, so you can turn it over and make another exposure.

    5. Get a copy of Ansel Adams's The Camera and The Negative. In any excursion into large-format photography, these classics are still completely current.

    6. Your camera has an International back--also known as a Graflok back--that allows you to remove the ground-glass frame after focusing and composing, and install a roll-film holder. That becomes yet another film option, though you give up a lot of the format. Roll-film holders for all the medium formats are readily available, and often for about $200ish for good used 6x9 holders or a new Shen-Hao 6x12 holder.

    Rick "who lived in Houston, College Station, Austin, San Antonio, and Dallas before being exiled to Virginia" Denney
    Great info Rick. I'm sitting here thinking about the two unopened boxes of Polaroid 55 that I have. I distinctly remember the conversation that I had (on a forum) when I bought it. "Should I stock up?" "Nah... Polaroid will be around for a long time to come." I'm glad I bought the 40 sheets that I did. Of course I obviously didn't know what I was buying so I guess that it's all good. I probably need to just sell it to someone that can really appreciate it. Oh... I have the little bucket and "stuff". I bought that when I bought the film.

    BTW- Fuji makes a polaroidish film for the 545i holder. Color and B&W I think. It's as you described above, not the same as Polaroid 55. I think that it would be good for practice.

    ?? I think that I have that book? I think it came with all of the other stuff that I got whine I picked up the Linof's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob McCarthy View Post
    I have an ancient Zone VT bag that has been doing service for many years. The nice setup is the tent by Harrison. Really any light tight bag with proper light-traps will work great.

    All the bags you mention will work fine. I use the bag in subdued light, never in bright light as a precaution, and have never fogged film.
    If I'm loading high iso film, I wear a long sleeve black t-shirt as insurance. Kind of a belt and suspenders approach.

    bob
    Cool. I'll order the less expensive one for now.

    I really appreciate everyone's help. I have the "parts" that I need coming and I haven't screwed up some apparently special film stock so I guess it's win win.

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    Re: Hello from Texas

    Welcome aboard!

    I have holders loaded with film. Holler & I'll meet you somewhere and we'll get you jump started. You know the drill. I'm in Houston every other weekend starting after Labor Day. We've been all around Weimar this year-Fayetteville, LaGrange, Flatonia, Luling. One of these days our schedules will mesh and we can get you De-Mistified.

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    Hey Wayne, sounds good to me... You know how it goes with me though... one minute I'm here and the next thing you know I'm at someone elses crisis working 18 hours a day.

    Big Bend is looming in my mind right now. Too bad you can't get loose for a 3 or 4 day trip. You would love it. I'm trying to decide between leaving Thursday or next week. The moon is full later this week and that is really pushing me toward leaving on Thursday. I don't know if my 10 dozen items that I need and have ordered will come in time for me to take the Linof or not. One can always hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Lloyd View Post
    BTW- Fuji makes a polaroidish film for the 545i holder. Color and B&W I think. It's as you described above, not the same as Polaroid 55. I think that it would be good for practice.
    This is not the case. The Fuji instant film is not in single sheets, as would be used in a 545 holder, but in packs. You need a pack-film holder, which I recall is a Polaroid 405, which Fuji now makes and sells as the PA-45.

    The 545 will work with Quickloads, but there is no longer any instant film being made that fits it.

    If I had a stock of Type 55, and if could find my old clearing tank and the chemical to put in it, I would go ahead and use up that film in the 545 holder. The longer you keep it, the less likely it will work the way its supposed to. Your original post led me to believe that you didn't realize that you had the Positive/Negative film, and was afraid you were throwing away the negatives not realizing they were completely usable as negatives. It is good film, but you do need to expose for the negative (which is slower) and not for the print. Adams talks about it extensively in his book on Polaroid materials.

    Rick "thinking the 55 P/N film would be really useful for people with scanners but no darkrooms, and sad to see it gone" Denney

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    Michael,

    I have the Polaroid gizmo for clearing your Type 55 negatives. You're welcome to borrow it. I also have a bottle of sodium sulfite that you use to clear the negatives. Take them with you to Big Bend. Bring back some killer negatives.
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    Wayne is very generous to offer the use of his clearing tank. If this doesn't pan out due to scheduling conflicts you can just treat the film in any glass or pyrex dish. The important thing is the clearing agent followed by a thorough wash.

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    Yeah... I like to think of Wayne as my "film conscience" He's always after me to ditch the blasphemous digital format and be a real photographer LOL.

    I have the tank and "stuff" ... but I'm going to hang with Wayne and let him show me some how to use some of these parts and pieces that I have accumulated.

    Rick- I was going to give you a part number of the instant sheet Fuji film that I saw over on Freestyle but their server is down. What business takes a server down in the middle of the day? Anyway... I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that it was instant film for the 545 holder. They had it for the other holder as well...

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    It's good to have a mentor!!

    FWIW, I personally don't consider digital as "blasphemous"... not in the least. However, digital cost vs. quality is FAR from being large format's equal... at least for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Lloyd View Post
    Rick- I was going to give you a part number of the instant sheet Fuji film that I saw over on Freestyle but their server is down. What business takes a server down in the middle of the day? Anyway... I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that it was instant film for the 545 holder. They had it for the other holder as well...
    When you find it, let me know. I'll also look. When I investigated this in detail a couple of months ago, I found no Fujiroid sheet-film option for the 545 holder. I bought a PA-45 and some pack film (also 4x5) and it works fine. I'm not sure Fuji has ever made film for the 545.

    Here are some relevant threads:

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...ad.php?t=45563

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...ad.php?t=32252

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...d.php?p=493652

    Rick "noting that speculation is dashed by the definite example" Denney

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    Me? Mentor? Who's going to Mentor me????????????????

    OK, sounds like I can leave the Polaroid bucket and film holder at the apartment. I'll bring a few sheets of the other P/N material that I haven't gotten around to using. It's way old but it'll be perfect for practice.
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