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Thread: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

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    Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    Hi,

    My first post here. I hope some of you guys can comment on this.

    Have I done something wrong or is this as expected? Fujifilm Pro 160S scanned at 2040ppi using the canned Pro 160 profile that comes with Flex Color. Take a look at the transitions from shadow (just below her hair) to the lighter skin tones on her forehead. Looks horrible to me. Is this a property of the film or is caused by the scanning process? Any comments on how to get smooth transitions? As you can see there is a colour cast, so the profile doesn't seem to do the job - I thought it would be ok to do the rest of the colour editing in Photoshop instead of in the scanner software. Is that a good strategy?

    Thanks for your input!

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    What do you have the sharpening set to? The Imacon's aggressive sharpening can cause noise in shadow areas from my experience.

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    Thanks for your quick reply, Jeremy. The sharpening was set to 100 (I understand that 1000 is max).

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    100 is still aggressive sharpening. No sharpening requires a value of -120 (minus).

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    Gilbert Plantinga
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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    Yes, 100 is way too much sharpening! Counterintuitively, to turn the sharpening off altogether you leave it checked on and set the amount at -120 (the range goes down to -200 which will actually soften the image). I shoot Portra 160 NC and usually set the sharpening to somewhere between -60 and 0; it depends on the image.

    Regarding the color cast, the Imacon negative setups (they are not profiles per se) don't work very well, but you can make your own very easily. A good method is here:

    http://www.michaelfoxphoto.com/Resou...neg_setup.html

    Hope this helps,

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    For some reason, Imacon scanner software will sharpen the image until a setting of -120 is used. I read an article by John Paul Caponigro (online about 5 years ago) that gave this piece of information and it works well.

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    Wow thanks a lot for your input! I will definitely keep this in mind next time.

    JGP, thanks for the link, I will have a look at it!

    I have been shooting with digital over the last 6-7 years so another factor might be that I am so used to looking at "clean" digital files.. anyway I thought 4x5 should produce very smooth images packed with detail and little grain. But I guess I am seeing bad sharpening and not grain here?

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    Thanks for the michaelfoxphoto link, Gilbert.

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    The negative looks underexposed. Underexposed negative film scans poorly.

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    Re: Scanning 4x5 with Imacon 646 - disappointed..

    I have to second the underexposure point. Having underexposed Pro S a number of times, having been new to C41 and processing, I can also second that it scans like garbage when underexposed. Wish I had and imacon though, would be a nice addition to my bidness =)

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