Surprising new information from eBay

**Dan Fromm** · 15-Feb-2009, 08:39

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leitz-leica-800m...QQcmdZViewItem

I didn't know that there was a Sinar shutter with ~200 mm aperture or that three "element-group" means Heliar. Live and learn.

At even odds, from an Epidiascope.

**Pete Watkins** · 15-Feb-2009, 09:00

As we say over here........... I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
Pete.

**Toyon** · 15-Feb-2009, 11:25

Another "Frankenstein" listing cobbled together from dead listings. Reminds me of the seller who used to list every brass lens as a "bokeh king" complete with suspiciously similar photos of a bare-breasted model standing mosquito-bitten amidst dark swirly woods.

**walter23** · 15-Feb-2009, 11:30

It doesn't look all that shifty to me. Just bad english and an attempt to flourish the listing a bit... at least it starts at $0.99 without reserve.

Originally Posted by Dan Fromm

I didn't know that there was a Sinar shutter with ~200 mm aperture or that

Heh, maybe he just meant you needed to shutter the thing somehow.

three "element-group" means Heliar.

I think there are three "groups" in a Heliar, right?

**Dan Fromm** · 15-Feb-2009, 12:20

walter23 wrote "I think there are three "groups" in a Heliar, right?"

Right. Also in jes' plain triplets, tessars, Elmarits, Sonnars, a variety of telephoto lenses, ...

Take a look at the cross-sections in the back of Cox.

**neil poulsen** · 15-Feb-2009, 22:25

Oofda!

**John Jarosz** · 16-Feb-2009, 08:16

Shipping is $85

What is Vokeh?

He says it fits a Leica.

Good stuff. He also has 1 feedback

John

**Peter K** · 16-Feb-2009, 08:36

Originally Posted by John Jarosz

He says it fits a Leica.

Years ago there where Leica models aviable made for advertising, ca. 1 x 2 m. Possible it fits.

As Dan mentioned before, many of such lenses where made for epidiascopes.

**Jim Galli** · 16-Feb-2009, 11:16

The careful reader has much to learn here. First is that anything that says Leitz is a Leica lens. Second is that a Dallmeyer 3A is a ULF lens. I think Cameo-Need_ham or whatever the he!! his name is now has some serious competition on his horizon. Maybe they'll get in a name war and both ramp up the idiotic lies??

BTW fwiw this is a triplet projector lens and at 800mm if you have a serious 11X14 Studio Portrait camera like a Century 8 this would have marvelous quality. Extremely sharp in it's focus zone which at 80cm f4.8 would be about 1/2 an inch or less. It's a street car headlight so field camera types need not apply.