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    Question Auto Graflex?

    Why was the Auto-Graflex called "Auto?" There's nothing automatic about any Graflex except the semi-auto aperture stop down on the Super D. Or maybe on earlier cameras the mirror had to be raised and then the shutter released separately?
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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    My favorite notion is this: On earlier models, the mirror was automatic, but the earlier models were all named 'Series (letter).' What better way to revamp sales in a modernizing era than to call it 'Auto'? The mirror is still automatic, but, as you said, the lens still is not. That came at least 10 years later. Design-wise, it was a distinct departure from the Series B and D cameras, so it may have been just a new name to call a new camera.

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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    Sorry for highjacking this thread.^^
    What I understand this cameras ( none Super D ) use one release button to lock up the mirror and release the built in fabric shutter. How will this work with a lens in a shutter? Do I need to lock up the mirror and after that shoot the lens shutter?
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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Miksch View Post
    How will this work with a lens in a shutter? Do I need to lock up the mirror and after that shoot the lens shutter?
    Regards Martin
    Or just set the shuttered lens to B w/ a locked cable release or T.

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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Moore View Post
    Or just set the shuttered lens to B w/ a locked cable release or T.
    Sorry, dont get it, where is the advantage of setting shutter to B or T, sorry again, I didnt tell it exactly, I want to use it without the fabric shutter, only the lens one.
    And what is the shortest lens you can use with a 5x7?
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    Martin
    Last edited by Martin Miksch; 23-Nov-2007 at 14:06.

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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    When the Auto Graflex was introduced, (about 1905) there were lots of "Cycle" or "Bicycle" cameras, including "Cycle" Graphics. Maybe the "Auto" was considered appropriate for a somewhat bulkier device.

    Martin, you need to have the curtain shutter open in order to use the front shutter. The mittot has to be up also, of course.

    In the case of 5 X 7 Graflex SLR cameras, the shortest lens usable depends on the camera model. A "Compact" Graflex (if you can find one in usable condition) might take a shorter lens than other models, but still not very short. A typical original lens on a 5 X 7 Graflex was a 210mm.



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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest Purdum View Post
    When the Auto Graflex was introduced, (about 1905) In the case of 5 X 7 Graflex SLR cameras, the shortest lens usable depends on the camera model. A "Compact" Graflex (if you can find one in usable condition) might take a shorter lens than other models, but still not very short. A typical original lens on a 5 X 7 Graflex was a 210mm.
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    I've read that Paul Strand used a 10" Dagor on his 5x7 Graflex, the shortest lens that would work without hitting the mirror.
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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    Strand used a 5x7" Home Portrait Graflex, which had a reversible back, so I suspect it must have a larger mirror than the others in order to do verticals, and would have a longer minimum focal length. Mine is a 5x7" Press Graflex, which requires that the camera be turned sideways for verticals (this is awkward and even with a very sturdy tripod, vibration damping isn't so great with the camera on its side), and the stock lens is a 5x8"/4.5 B&L Tessar, which is something like 240mm, maybe a little shorter. My 210/3.5 Xenar doesn't focus to infinity, but it's fine for most indoor shooting, which is when I need the extra speed of this lens.

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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    I have an original Auto Graflex manual, and camera, and although there is nothing inside that remarks about the "auto" feature, I believe it was the fact that the single lever flipped the mirror up and released the rear shutter. My question is, till the Auto Graflex, was that possible in another camera and were they just trying to keep pace? Either that or it was an advertising ploy.

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    Re: Auto Graflex?

    Wayne, the combined mirror and shutter release is older than the "Auto" name, though I suppose the name could have been added to emphasize it. According to Brian Coe's "Cameras from Daguerrotype to Instant Pictures" Krugener had this arrangement in 1891. Most of F&S's competitors had equivalent arrangements.

    Your original manual is a nice item to have.

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