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    Deliberate perspective distortion

    I was wondering if any one may know of LF art photographers who deliberately distort perspective to make it look odd (for want of a better way of saying it) by making use of view camera movements?

    Too add a little extra....

    Perhaps by way of an example, trees that appear to be falling out of the picture frame, hoping not to be misleading by use of one example here, of course. Also perspective in broader terms such as focus as well as perspective lines which may or may not converge and whatever else. I am perhaps thinking of aesthetic questions, however aesthetic and technical planes are one plane if I start to unravel this a bit more but again; could this too be misleading.

    I have just purchased my first monorail, a Calumet 45N, so am a little new to this area despite the fact that the camera looked very familiar to me once in the hand as if I had used one in past decades and centuries but had simply forgotten (which could be likely given my memory...) I am also a poet and novelist and point of view questions can get quite complex and difficult in this realm; free indirect discourse for example. But then back to the question or is this side shadowing perspective as lateral transfer in refusing fore and back shadowing? Etc etc

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    Bill Brandt did it...

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    Technically, perspective refers to the position of the lens relative to the scene. This determines how elements of the scene line up. View camera movements don't affect perspective.

    What you can control is the following.

    1. Through rise, fall, and horizontal shifts, you can control to some extent what is in the frame. With a fixed lens camera, the lens axis will always pass through the center of the frame. With such movements, you can move it up or down or to the side.

    2. Through tilts or swings, you can control the exact plane of focus. With a conventional camera, this will always be a plane perpendicular to the lens axis and at some distance from the lens.

    3. Through choice of focal length, you can control certain other aspects of the image, and by choice of f-stop, you can control depth of field, i.e. what is in adequate fous. This is the same for a view camera and a fixed lens camera, except when using a tilt or swing, in which case it is a bit more complicated.

    Generally, view camera photography is much more deliberative than smaller format photography. Because of the cost in materails and in time adjusting the camera, view camera photographers spend a lot more time composing the scene and thinking hard about what they want to accomplish. Of course, other photographers often do the same thing, but it is almost impossible not to do so when using a view camera. As a result, view camera photographers make more conscious use of the basic principles of photography, even though these principles are not very different than for other forms.

    You would be well advised to get one of the standard texts on the subject and study it. Steve Simmons's Using the View Camera is a good plae to start. Stroebel's View Camera Technique is the most complete book. Jim Stone's A User's Guide to the View Camera is also helpful. The large format website has lots of information on various aspects of view camera photography.

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    When photographing in nature it is not unusual to use tilts or swings to distort a particular object. For instance the use of back tilts to emphasize an important foreground object which has not straight lines, like a rock.

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    I think you should try it to see if it meets with your expectations, concepts and aesthetics. You mention that you are a poet. Do you only attempt what is tried and true or do you explore the medium and see how you feel about the results.

    Many photographers produce spectacular photos using only what are considered standard (acceptable?) procedures, while others push the technical envelope to see what else is out there. You need to do what feeds your creative impulses.

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    Perspective itself is also a distortion (and, among other things depends in part on exactly which theory of perspective you happen to follow...).

    Here are a few that briefly come to mind (though not quite what I think you were looking for)

    Varburg

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...ad.php?t=29359

    barbieri
    http://www.yanceyrichardson.com/arti...eri/index.html

    Marc Räder
    http://www.fotohof.or.at/exibhist/ku...ammdatenID=971

    etc
    http://photo-muse.blogspot.com/2007/...-minature.html

    not LF, but maybe someone like Keith Carter?
    http://www.photoeye.com/Gallery/form...allery=1&Page=
    You'd be amazed how small the demand is for pictures of trees... - Fred Astaire to Audrey Hepburn

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    I learned perspective in drawing, where this refers to the relationship of foreground to background, especially objects in the foreground relating to objects in the background. There is also the possibility to distort the shape of objects, like with some rear movements on a view camera. I still have a load of scanning to accomplish, though basically this is the type of stuff I have been working on. Another thing is creating a wedge of focus/sharpness to slice through a scene, leaving the other areas defocused. Sometimes that makes large objects appear to be miniturized, or more like scaled models. The toughest aspect is visualizing a scene, though I have tried taking a sketchbook with me to a location to do a rough set-up of what I want; then lots of adjusting while viewing the ground glass.

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    Thanks,
    Kirk

    at age 73:
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    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep"

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    This deliberate restricted focus using the reverse direction of movement from that which you'd use to maximise sharpness is something I have been doing as a mini-series when a situation presents itself. Initially in B+W, have managed a few in colour. These three from this summer, I have some B+Ws which aren't properly finished yet. I concur that it can make buildings look toy-like.

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    Re: Deliberate perspective distortion

    chris - i apologize for a few of the obstinate responses thus far on behalf of the forum. Yes, though - lots of people have done stuff like that - it seems to me from what I can recall - there was a bit of a wave of that going on in the early 90s - along with using tilts and a wide aperture to get an unnatural looking focus plane.

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