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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Well, Chris, unfortunately there were no pictures because everything was happening so fast! But I can give you a little overview of the process:

    I have the magnesium, and therefore green, version of the camera. I started by taking the whole thing apart, slowly, being sure to know how each thing went together. Then, on to sanding with coarse steel wool, then a rubdown with good solvent (Goo-Off is the stuff I used, and it is amazing), and on to a whole lot of masking. Obviously, all of the sliding surfaces and such got masked off.

    Then, with as many parts as would fit, I hung everything with thin wire from the struts and cross members of a ladder which became my paint rack.

    From here, the usual. Prime, dry, paint, dry, check, paint again, dry again. For paint, I used Rustoleum Hammer-Finish spraypaint. The color I picked was the lighter, more muted two greens that are available in the hammer finish (the other is a deep forrest green), and it turns out that the color I used is an eerily close match to the original shade of green, just glossier and with more texture. Originally, the frames for the ground glass on both my 8x10 and 4x5 backs were black instead of green, so I used another hammer-finish paint, this time a bronze color.

    A C-1 uses about a can and a half of the main color, about 2 cans of primer, and some fraction of a can of flat black for all the internal surfaces and light trap surfaces on the backs. I just happened to have the bronze secondary color already, so figure that one in as well.

    For all the sliding surfaces, I rubbed them with progressively finer steel wool, making sure things were smooth and slick. I did the same thing with all the metallic parts to make sure they had a nice shine.

    Once all the paint was dry, I put it all back together. Next up, I'm going to strip the Majestic tripod I've got it on (though because of its tougher paint I'll have to use chemical paint stripper) and repaint it that same bronze color.

    One idea you might want to try out would be stone-finish paint. I thought that would look cool, but the nostalgic side of me said 'no, keep it at least somewhat like original.' Never argue with your inside voice. PM me with any questions, I'll help as much as I can!

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_joe6 View Post
    Well, Chris, unfortunately there were no pictures because everything was happening so fast! But I can give you a little overview of the process:

    I have the magnesium, and therefore green, version of the camera. I started by taking the whole thing apart, slowly, being sure to know how each thing went together. Then, on to sanding with coarse steel wool, then a rubdown with good solvent (Goo-Off is the stuff I used, and it is amazing), and on to a whole lot of masking. Obviously, all of the sliding surfaces and such got masked off.

    Then, with as many parts as would fit, I hung everything with thin wire from the struts and cross members of a ladder which became my paint rack.

    From here, the usual. Prime, dry, paint, dry, check, paint again, dry again. For paint, I used Rustoleum Hammer-Finish spraypaint. The color I picked was the lighter, more muted two greens that are available in the hammer finish (the other is a deep forrest green), and it turns out that the color I used is an eerily close match to the original shade of green, just glossier and with more texture. Originally, the frames for the ground glass on both my 8x10 and 4x5 backs were black instead of green, so I used another hammer-finish paint, this time a bronze color.

    A C-1 uses about a can and a half of the main color, about 2 cans of primer, and some fraction of a can of flat black for all the internal surfaces and light trap surfaces on the backs. I just happened to have the bronze secondary color already, so figure that one in as well.

    For all the sliding surfaces, I rubbed them with progressively finer steel wool, making sure things were smooth and slick. I did the same thing with all the metallic parts to make sure they had a nice shine.

    Once all the paint was dry, I put it all back together. Next up, I'm going to strip the Majestic tripod I've got it on (though because of its tougher paint I'll have to use chemical paint stripper) and repaint it that same bronze color.

    One idea you might want to try out would be stone-finish paint. I thought that would look cool, but the nostalgic side of me said 'no, keep it at least somewhat like original.' Never argue with your inside voice. PM me with any questions, I'll help as much as I can!
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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Sweet!I used Never-Dull wading polish on all the un-painted surfaces myself.Put a nice shine on everything.I'm in the market for a mag version myself.All the mags I've seen for sale the past year or two on ebay were trashed

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_joe6 View Post
    Well, Chris, unfortunately there were no pictures because everything was happening so fast! But I can give you a little overview of the process:

    I have the magnesium, and therefore green, version of the camera. I started by taking the whole thing apart, slowly, being sure to know how each thing went together. Then, on to sanding with coarse steel wool, then a rubdown with good solvent (Goo-Off is the stuff I used, and it is amazing), and on to a whole lot of masking. Obviously, all of the sliding surfaces and such got masked off.

    Then, with as many parts as would fit, I hung everything with thin wire from the struts and cross members of a ladder which became my paint rack.

    From here, the usual. Prime, dry, paint, dry, check, paint again, dry again. For paint, I used Rustoleum Hammer-Finish spraypaint. The color I picked was the lighter, more muted two greens that are available in the hammer finish (the other is a deep forrest green), and it turns out that the color I used is an eerily close match to the original shade of green, just glossier and with more texture. Originally, the frames for the ground glass on both my 8x10 and 4x5 backs were black instead of green, so I used another hammer-finish paint, this time a bronze color.

    A C-1 uses about a can and a half of the main color, about 2 cans of primer, and some fraction of a can of flat black for all the internal surfaces and light trap surfaces on the backs. I just happened to have the bronze secondary color already, so figure that one in as well.

    For all the sliding surfaces, I rubbed them with progressively finer steel wool, making sure things were smooth and slick. I did the same thing with all the metallic parts to make sure they had a nice shine.

    Once all the paint was dry, I put it all back together. Next up, I'm going to strip the Majestic tripod I've got it on (though because of its tougher paint I'll have to use chemical paint stripper) and repaint it that same bronze color.

    One idea you might want to try out would be stone-finish paint. I thought that would look cool, but the nostalgic side of me said 'no, keep it at least somewhat like original.' Never argue with your inside voice. PM me with any questions, I'll help as much as I can!

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Merg, was the Calumet you were using in the Art Wright video a 4x5 or a 5x7? I noticed that Brett got really close to the subjects for some of his photographs, not being familiar with the '66, does the bellows give it close up capacity? Were you in any of the gallery scenes or just at Point Lobos?

    Thanks for your participation and knowledge, there is a saying that goes somewhat like this: A minute with a master is worth a life time of study on your own. Again thanks.

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    With the exception of the bellows and the glass on the backs, there's not a whole lot that these cameras can't handle I've found. Plus, all the parts are interchangeable from the aluminums to the magnesiums I believe, so with a couple of junkers you might get something quite nice. Unless the metal itself was bent or damaged or parts are missing you should be able to pick up any C-1 and get it looking good and working good without too many problems. All the threads on the things are standard sizes. With some elbow grease and a good machinist I think even the most trashed C-1 could be brought back to life with less than a month's worth of work at the most, a week (how long it took me to clean, paint, and cure everything) at the least.

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Turner, not wishing to hijack Chris's thread, my reply will be brief. The Calumet camera I was using at Point Lobos was a 4x5. The Rollei, with bellows and choice of lenses is terrific for closeups. Brett actually preferred the 120mm and longer lenses. I was in the scenes at Brett's house at "Snake Time".

    Thanks, Chris, sorry for the diversion.

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    As a brand new C-1 owner, I hope noone minds a brief thread takeover. How do you lubricate the focusing mechanism? Just clean the rails, or does it actually need some lunrication? Thanks,

    GB

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Hi Chris, I have a C1 8x10 and it's in a small suitcase right now. I bought a case but it holds the camera but doesn't have enough room for lenses or holders but that makes the case too big. I checked the site you listed, it looks like they are a custom case maker who can make just about anything. I like the one you have and white is the right color to keep it cooler in hot weather. Now that you have the case what will you carry the film holders in?

    I actually put my Kodak 5x7 in and holders with cloth and accessories in the other case I bought. Sorry to take the thread away to Merg, he has some great knowledge of Calumet cameras and the like and is always willing to share it with us.

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Strobel View Post
    Sweet!I used Never-Dull wading polish on all the un-painted surfaces myself.Put a nice shine on everything.I'm in the market for a mag version myself.All the mags I've seen for sale the past year or two on ebay were trashed
    Actually, the one I just got is in excellent condition, a green magnesium one.

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    Re: New Case for the 8x10

    instead of a case... i'm using a 50 euros Vuarde 40 alpinist backpack with great success... with a toyo 810M or a Sinar Norma 8x10.
    i put the holders in a laptop's bag.

    http://www.koodza.fr/Vuarde-40_118_32514.htm

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