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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by MAubrey View Post
    You need the right part of the archive.

    https://archive.org/details/FujinonL...20%2813%29.jpg
    Thanks but those "WS" lenses are really "W" lenses, not "W S" lenses. The "S" in the "WS" lenses means "series", just as it does in the "NWS" lenses. Same with "AS", "SWS", "SWDS", "NSWS", etc. I'm referring to the lenses where the "S" is set off from the other letters -- "W S". That only happened with the "W" lenses -- there are "W" inscribed lenses and "W S" inscribed lenses. No lenses are inscribed "WS". The "W S" lenses are early lenses. Here are two examples -- same lens, one is "W", the other "W S".

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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by xkaes View Post
    Thanks but those "WS" lenses are really "W" lenses, not "W S" lenses. The "S" in the "WS" lenses means "series", just as it does in the "NWS" lenses. Same with "AS", "SWS", "SWDS", "NSWS", etc. I'm referring to the lenses where the "S" is set off from the other letters -- "W S". That only happened with the "W" lenses -- there are "W" inscribed lenses and "W S" inscribed lenses. No lenses are inscribed "WS". The "W S" lenses are early lenses. Here are two examples -- same lens, one is "W", the other "W S".

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    Yes, I know what they look like. I have the second one.

    But the S in WS doesn't series. That'd make this page very silly sounding.


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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by MAubrey View Post
    Yes, I know what they look like. I have the second one.

    But the S in WS doesn't series. That'd make this page very silly sounding.
    I'll agree that Fuji's designation has its problems -- but, if "S" doesn't mean "series" on that lens list, what does it mean? It certainly doesn't mean "Seiko", because those lens came in Copal shutters. And it certainly doesn't mean "shutter", because the SWD series on that page all came in shutters, but don't end with an "S".

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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by xkaes View Post
    I'll agree that Fuji's designation has its problems -- but, if "S" doesn't mean "series" on that lens list, what does it mean? It certainly doesn't mean "Seiko", because those lens came in Copal shutters. And it certainly doesn't mean "shutter", because the SWD series on that page all came in shutters, but don't end with an "S".
    The “S” is for "Seemed like a good idea at the time." これはアメリカ人を混乱させるだろう
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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

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    Matching serial number lens and packaging.

    Just to muddy the waters, no space on the box printing; space on the lens.

    For what it is worth, I believe that the “S” nomenclature refers to the lens’ line being Fujinon’s “standard”design lenses, much like Schneider’s Claron range having G, C, D, Vario etc.
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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

    Your lenses is a "W" lens, not a "W S" lens.

    Fujinon boxes and lenses are well-known to have different lettering. For example, the NW lenses are marked "W" on the lens and "NWS" on the box.

    And your example does not explain why many of Fuji's Fujinon lenses are marked "W" and "W S" on the same lens -- regardless of what's on the box (see my comparison photos, above).

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    Re: Fujinon W 180 & 8x10

    Ummm…. Pretty sure that’s a “W S” clearly marked on the front of my lens….

    And, what I wrote still holds up when you read what Kerry wrote about Fujinon lenses: “ Early samples were single coated and in Seiko shutters”. He has done the research. I suspect that the simple “W” lenses will have later S/Ns and be in Copal shutters and will have dropped the “S” as it became redundant/tautologist overtime. It appears to be reintroduced when the EBC line superseded the original, single coated range, again to signify their standard lenses.
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