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    Rollei black magic #2

    Rollei black magic #2
    after 7years in the a frozen condition -after bring it to room temp it is a dry solid mass in the original container ???

    What can I do or what can I add to make it fluid again ????

    if any bogy has worked with Rollei black magic #2 ????

    I have never used it.

    it has never been opened.

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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    ???????????

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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    Mortar & Pestle Set

    Or coffee grinder
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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    Mortar & Pestle Set

    Or coffee grinder
    In apocalyptical total darkness.


    The real reason can be that the liquid part have sublimated away.
    Last edited by Per Madsen; 30-May-2023 at 04:59. Reason: More information

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    What is that of which you write?

    All Rollemagic 2 were essentially black finish.

    By 'frozen' do you mean the shutter is stuck?

    "original container" ? do you mean it's special carrying case?

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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    Quote Originally Posted by joho View Post
    Rollei black magic #2
    after 7years in the a frozen condition -after bring it to room temp it is a dry solid mass in the original container ???

    What can I do or what can I add to make it fluid again ????

    if any bogy has worked with Rollei black magic #2 ????

    I have never used it.

    it has never been opened.
    hi joho

    it's not supposed to be liquid it's supposed to be a gelatinous mass.

    I haven't worked with BlackMagic but I've worked with Foma, 3 different Rockland Colloid and 3+ different emulsions I have made...

    not sure you have ever used LSE but it's never a liquid until it is melted ...

    Have you taken a plastic knife and in the darkroom under the red light cut a small piece off the block
    and put it in a container you water jacket in hot water ?
    if it melts, brush it on something small, and when dry put a coin on it and turn the lights on and develop it
    you'll see how much contrast is left ... and if the emulsion is dead ...

    if it is like a rock you might have to experiment to hydrate it ... but it might be a fool's errand ... it fogs from being heated and melted (that's why I said cut a piece off)
    Last edited by jnantz; 30-May-2023 at 13:33.

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    O.k. jnantz you got it correct !
    I am totally clueless, I do remember it was as you say gel -- well not now it is a rock.
    .. but it might be a fool's errand ...I will try. any way your words are helpful.
    I will try some cheap hair gell see if it will soak-it up ???
    thanks !!

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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    Tin Can,

    when I shake the jar that is what it sounds like.

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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    Quote Originally Posted by joho View Post
    O.k. jnantz you got it correct !
    I am totally clueless, I do remember it was as you say gel -- well not now it is a rock.
    .. but it might be a fool's errand ...I will try. any way your words are helpful.
    I will try some cheap hair gell see if it will soak-it up ???
    thanks !!
    once gelatin is dried out it can't be re-hydrated
    hair gel won't matter.

    ... if it was me I'd take a sharp knife and slices pieces off of the block ( like a piece of cheese )
    and then make prints on that.. it's photo paper /a dry plate but without the paper or glass .

    good luck!
    John

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    Re: Rollei black magic #2

    I wonder if coffee grinder in DARK

    sprinkle the emulsion on flat level something



    Quote Originally Posted by jnantz View Post
    once gelatin is dried out it can't be re-hydrated
    hair gel won't matter.

    ... if it was me I'd take a sharp knife and slices pieces off of the block ( like a piece of cheese )
    and then make prints on that.. it's photo paper /a dry plate but without the paper or glass .

    good luck!
    John
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