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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    Pieter - it has little to do with drawing a line. If an alleged bakery cake looks and tastes more like a Twinkie, then I call it junk food too. But as these
    artificial means of generating imagery get easier than ever, at what point does it become an outright substitute for actual human creativity? You can go ask the actors and script writers guild on strike in Hollywood right now if it's a significant issue or not. I'll just keep doing what I've always done -
    spit out anything unpalatable.

    Yeah, yeah, one can go clear back to P.H. Emerson categorizing even dodging and burning as a sin, even though he allowed spotting out annoying little specular reflections. All photography is a form of illusionism, and not actual visual reality as our own eyes see it. It's inherently selective. But
    there is a vast difference between such selection, in its many potential implications, from sheer fabrication. Painting with a PS or Ai program isn't photography - it's painting, and usually lazy hokey painting. Big difference, in my opinion. And I know darn well which side of that divide I'm on. When I want to be a painter instead, well, that's what brushes and paint are for (though the past few days, that's only amounted to some house repair painting). When I want to be a photographer, that's what a camera is for. And there is so incredibly much out there still worthy of actual photography, that I pity anyone who has to resort to Artificial Idiocy to try to mimic it.

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    I pity you Drew
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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    Well, the walls of the Louvre would be empty if Ai and PS had arrived instead of the Renaissance. That kind of artificial output gets mighty boring mighty fast, and is always just one step of innovation away from becoming obsolete. One fad gimmick after another.

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    I agree you have Mastered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Well, the walls of the Louvre would be empty if Ai and PS had arrived instead of the Renaissance. That kind of artificial output gets mighty boring mighty fast, and is always just one step of innovation away from becoming obsolete. One fad gimmick after another.
    Tin Can

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    Some people like Twinkies.

    Some do not like most of the art on the walls of the Louvre.

    Go figure.

    And I like David Hockney's iPad "paintings."

    AI, like any tool, can be aboused. Take Margaret Keene. Please.

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    Oh, I did a fair amount of digital illustration for sake of company ads and other transient nonsense purposes. Here today, gone tomorrow, that's about all its good for.

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    Did the lightbulb do away with the candle?
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    at age 73:
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    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep"

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    What has happened to this thread? I still get a thrill from a 4x5 transparency viewed on a light box - just like being there as I remember it. AI doesn't worry me because it is just the ability to process huge amounts of data in order to recognise some kind of pattern and then extrapolate. That is not creative!

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by linhofbiker View Post
    What has happened to this thread? I still get a thrill from a 4x5 transparency viewed on a light box - just like being there as I remember it. AI doesn't worry me because it is just the ability to process huge amounts of data in order to recognise some kind of pattern and then extrapolate. That is not creative!
    Coming up with ideas for images can be as or more creative than the process of making those images.

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    Re: What's going to become of photography?

    I am studying this French Canadian

    Simon d'Entremont

    He very good at online teaching


    https://www.youtube.com/@simon_dentremont

    btw I have a degree in online teaching
    Tin Can

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