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    Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Can anyone tell me how the B+F of Fomapan 100 compares to either Delta 100 or FP4?
    I'm interested in finding an alternative to FP4 for making negatives for salted paper printing. FP4 has gotten to be SO expensive, and I'm curious if Fomapan 100 is a potential alternative. But I need a film that has a very low B+F.

    For that matter, has anyone used any of the other Fomapan sheet films (200, 400) for making alternative process negatives?

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulbarden View Post
    Can anyone tell me how the B+F of Fomapan 100 compares to either Delta 100 or FP4?
    I'm interested in finding an alternative to FP4 for making negatives for salted paper printing. FP4 has gotten to be SO expensive, and I'm curious if Fomapan 100 is a potential alternative. But I need a film that has a very low B+F.

    For that matter, has anyone used any of the other Fomapan sheet films (200, 400) for making alternative process negatives?

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    I can tell you when I get home from work today, if you like.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew O'Neill View Post
    I can tell you when I get home from work today, if you like.
    I'd appreciate that, thanks Andrew!

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    I stuck it in my calendar so it should remind me around 5. I can check FP4 as well as Delta 100.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    In response to your follow-up question, I have used Fomapan 200 (aka Arista.EDU Ultra 200) for printing palladium with much success. I've shot multi-hundreds of sheets of it. It does have a little base fog, but it is so easy to build contrast with it that a little base fog should not be a problem.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Davis View Post
    In response to your follow-up question, I have used Fomapan 200 (aka Arista.EDU Ultra 200) for printing palladium with much success. I've shot multi-hundreds of sheets of it. It does have a little base fog, but it is so easy to build contrast with it that a little base fog should not be a problem.
    Thanks, Scott! When you say "a little base fog", would you say its more than FP4 base fog, or more like HP5 Base fog? HP5 is unsuitable for salt printing because its got too much base density, but FP4 has far less.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulbarden View Post
    Thanks, Scott! When you say "a little base fog", would you say its more than FP4 base fog, or more like HP5 Base fog? HP5 is unsuitable for salt printing because its got too much base density, but FP4 has far less.
    Have you tried developing HP5 in an unconventional develop, such as DK50 or D-19? I've used both of them diluted 1+3, and have been able to make Kallitype and Carbon Transfer prints. Conventional developers just won't do it.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew O'Neill View Post
    Have you tried developing HP5 in an unconventional develop, such as DK50 or D-19? I've used both of them diluted 1+3, and have been able to make Kallitype and Carbon Transfer prints. Conventional developers just won't do it.
    I haven't, no. The issue is that I am making negs specifically for salted papers, and based on my own findings and what Ellie Young wrote about the subject, PMK is the optimal developer for getting an appropriate negative. So I'm not really at liberty to test other developers, since I've already established a method that works for me. HP5 in PMK builds to much base density to make a good salt neg. But I appreciate the suggestions, Andrew.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Foma 100 has low b&f, comparable to FP4+. It's very suitable for making salt prints and other alt process prints. It's my default film for this purpose. It also develops to salt print densities in non-staining developers like XTOL with ease.

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    Re: Fomapan 100 Base + Fog?

    Quote Originally Posted by koraks View Post
    Foma 100 has low b&f, comparable to FP4+. It's very suitable for making salt prints and other alt process prints. It's my default film for this purpose. It also develops to salt print densities in non-staining developers like XTOL with ease.
    That is excellent information, thank you very much Raphaël! Exactly what I was hoping to find out. I really like FP4, but I'd really like to find a less costly alternative. I'm hopeful now that Fomapan 100 will do the job. Have you ever processed it in a staining developer like PMK? Does it take to PMK alright?

    I've read reports that the antihalation dye is difficult to remove from the film - do you have anything to say about that issue? Some people have reported presoaking the film for up to half an hour before development, to get ride of the dye!
    Again, thanks.

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