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    calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    Hello,
    I've got an Rodenstock Eurygon Anastigmat 1 f4.5/360mm (from 1915).

    Vademecum:
    "Eurygon f4.5 300, 360, 420mm ... H&D gives 210-600mm, and confirms it is a triplet ... Coverage increases
    from 48° to 60° or to 70° as it is stopped down..."

    For portraits I did following calculation:

    1/b = 1/f - 1/g
    b: distance between lens and film, f: focal length, g: distance to subject

    tan(alpha/2) = r/b
    alpha: angle of view, r: radius of coverage, b: distance between lens and film

    - with g = 2m -> b ~ 440mm

    - f4.5 -> alpha = 70°
    -> diameter of coverage ~ 614mm
    -> 30x40cm film format should fit

    - f25 -> alpha = 48°
    -> diameter of coverage ~ 409mm
    -> 9" x 12" film format should fit

    Is my estimation correct?
    Oliver

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    The easy way is to get a piece of cardboard, turn off any lights in yout room, pull the blinds down, point the lens out your window and point it at a distant object. Hold the cardboard behind the lens and move it until you see a sharp image. Now you see the coverage.

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    Unfortunately I don't have the camera yet. I try to figure out what is possible and advised.

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by olk View Post
    Unfortunately I don't have the camera yet. I try to figure out what is possible and advised.
    A camera isn’t used. Just a lens and a piece of cardboard.

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    A camera isn’t used. Just a lens and a piece of cardboard.
    And a room with at least one window ;-)

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    No camera?

    Try a camera OBSCURE - UH.

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by olk View Post
    Is my estimation correct?
    Oliver
    No. The magic formula you want is, in pidgin Excel, diameter of circle covered =2*focal length*TAN(RADIANS(angle covered/2))

    @ f/4.5 the angle covered is 48°, @ f/25 70°. You got that backwards.

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    Re: calculate converage of 360mm lens correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    No. The magic formula you want is, in pidgin Excel, diameter of circle covered =2*focal length*TAN(RADIANS(angle covered/2))
    I used this Formular, except that I used the distance between lens and film instead of focal length only.
    I think this is more correct because for portraits I don't focus to infinity == focal lenght

    Isn't this right.

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