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    Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Hello, everyone

    I recently bought a Linhof Technika 5x7. Among other things, a Tele-Xenar 5.5 / 500mm was included.
    An orchid served as a model for the first experiments. The image enlargement was approx. 1: 2. One photo with aperture 5.5 @ 1/4 sec., The second with aperture 11 @ 1 sec. Focusing was a bit difficult ....
    In the picture taken with f / 5.5 a "glow" is visible at the edges of the orchid leaves (in the blurred areas?). I would be interested in how this effect shows up in portraits. Have any of you experience with this lens in portraits? And what is not clear to me: With the compound shutter, no cable release is used, but there is a nipple for a compressed air release. Are there standard products for this? Or just use a hose with a syringe?

    Thank you for your tips

    NormaN

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    In your third picture the thingy sticking out from the circumference of the shutter as you go counter clockwise from the shutter speed dial, is that what you are referring to as the nipple? It should be threaded internally for a cable release.

    David

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Thank you David!

    How could I not look inside!
    Because of the external shape, I thought of a hose connection ...
    I like the shutter a lot, especially its "full" sound when it is released.

    NormaN

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Quote Originally Posted by NormaN View Post
    Thank you David!

    How could I not look inside!
    Because of the external shape, I thought of a hose connection ...
    I like the shutter a lot, especially its "full" sound when it is released.

    NormaN
    Good, glad that worked out. Deckel used that style of cable release on the dial-set Compurs also.

    1966 and 1970 (dates based on what I take to be date codes) Schneider brochures I have show the 500 mm Tele-Xenar covers an image circle of 312 mm at f/16 and is recommended for maximum format of 18 x 24 cm. I calculate the diagonal of 8 x 10 inches to be 325mm while that of 18 x 24 cm is 300 mm.

    I'd forgotten that there was a 1000 mm Tele-Xenar. The 1966 brochure shows only an f/8 version; it was not available in a shutter. The 1970 brochure adds an f/10 version. It was available in a 5 FS shutter. I think that's the electronic No. 5 Compur. Other Schneider lenses in this brochure taking a No. 5 shutter are also shown using the 5 FS.

    On edit: The 5 FS is the electronic No. 5 Compur. In the 1970 brochure lenses formerly mounted in the No. 4 Compound are among those now mounted in the 5 FS.

    Both the f/8 and the f/10 1000 mm Tele-Xenars have the same coverage as the 500 mm, an image circle of 312 mm.

    David
    Last edited by David Lindquist; 22-Nov-2021 at 16:13. Reason: additional information

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Quote Originally Posted by David Lindquist View Post
    Good, glad that worked out. Deckel used that style of cable release on the dial-set Compurs also.

    1966 and 1970 (dates based on what I take to be date codes) Schneider brochures I have show the 500 mm Tele-Xenar covers an image circle of 312 mm at f/16 and is recommended for maximum format of 18 x 24 cm. I calculate the diagonal of 8 x 10 inches to be 325mm while that of 18 x 24 cm is 300 mm.

    I'd forgotten that there was a 1000 mm Tele-Xenar. The 1966 brochure shows only an f/8 version; it was not available in a shutter. The 1970 brochure adds an f/10 version. It was available in a 5 FS shutter. I think that's the electronic No. 5 Compur. Other Schneider lenses in this brochure taking a No. 5 shutter are also shown using the 5 FS.

    Both the f/8 and the f/10 1000 mm Tele-Xenars have the same coverage as the 500 mm, an image circle of 312 mm.

    David
    Hi David

    Thank you for the infos
    Found this Catalogue from 1961 with some data....

    https://www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/00896/00896.pdf

    NormaN

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Quote Originally Posted by NormaN View Post
    Hi David

    Thank you for the infos
    Found this Catalogue from 1961 with some data....

    https://www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/00896/00896.pdf

    NormaN
    Thank you for this, led in part to my editing my post #13.

    David

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    This is a Compound V shutter, a big and rare beast. Treat it nicely. Your lens is a beautiful example of how nice are the photos taken with a 15 or more leaf shutter.

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Quote Originally Posted by Delfi_r View Post
    This is a Compound V shutter, a big and rare beast. Treat it nicely. Your lens is a beautiful example of how nice are the photos taken with a 15 or more leaf shutter.
    Thank You Delfi_r
    It is really a nice shutter in very good condition!
    NormaN

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Hi NormaN,
    your pictures at 5,5f and 11f is typical for this (kind of) lens. Soft wide open because of chromatic aberration (no APO lens) getting better stopping down. Maybe the same effect as a special soft-portrait lens, but not the same construction.
    Stopped down to 22f you can use this lens even for 8x10, but clearly detoriating to the corners in sharpness and color fringing.
    The compound shutter has continious times, so you can easely recalibrate the shutter times yourself.

    regards
    Rainer
    Last edited by rawitz; 23-Nov-2021 at 03:21.

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    Re: Tele-Xenar 5.5/500 on a Linhof 5x7

    Quote Originally Posted by rawitz View Post
    Hi NormaN,
    your pictures at 5,5f and 11f is typical for this (kind of) lens. Soft wide open because of spherical aberration (no APO lens) getting better stopping down. Maybe the same effect as a special soft-portrait lens, but not the same construction.
    Stopped down to 22f you can use this lens even for 8x10, but clearly detoriating to the corners in sharpness and color fringing.
    The compound shutter has continious times, so you can easely recalibrate the shutter times yourself.

    regards
    Rainer
    Hello Rainer

    Thanks for pointing out the stepless shutter speeds! Did you somehow measure this on yourself?

    Regards
    NormaN

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