Grandagon vs. Grandagon-N vs. Nikkor lenses. A light fall-off question.

[sanking]

Hi Bob,

There's been occasional discussion about this over the years, but I haven't come across a post where you weighed in directly. Was the change from Grandagon MC to Grandagon N MC a relabelling of the line or substantive?

And then there is the Apo-Grandagon? Same question about relabeling or substantive could apply to it.

Sandy

[r.e.]

Relabel

Thanks very much.

[Oren Grad]

And then there is the Apo-Grandagon?

IIRC the Apo-Grandagons are all in shorter focal lengths (55 mm or less) that were never offered as plain Grandagons.

[Bob Salomon]

IIRC the Apo-Grandagons are all in shorter focal lengths (55 mm or less) that were never offered as plain Grandagons.

They were only made in 35, 45 and 55mm. Never as Grandagons.

[Ig Nacio]

Hi Bob,
Hi guys,

Relabel

So, from one version to the other, the only major change was ONLY a 'relabel' ??!!!

Thank you, kind regards!

[Bob Salomon]

Hi Bob,
Hi guys,



So, from one version to the other, the only major change was ONLY a 'relabel' ??!!!

Thank you, kind regards!

Since one is newer then the other you can not assume that they did not undergo other changes.

[Ig Nacio]

Hi Bob,
Hi guys,

It is better. How much better depends on what you want it for and how you will use it.
Just to make it simpler.
Are you asking how much better in:
Resolution?
Distortion?
Color?
Flare resistance?
Or something else?

Thank you for your message : )!!!

The question is because both the 'Grandagon' and 'Grandagon-N' when they are being sold in the same used condition,
both appear to have the same price. It is not always the case, but so far, that has been most of my experience for
the copies I have seen being offered.

So, if they have the same price, let's say both lenses are 90mm. f/6.8 lenses, then I may go for the 'Grandagon-N',
and not for the original 'Grandagon'. This, because even if in general the 'Grandagon-N' is slightly, (or much better),
then I would take the newer version only because it is better. Wouldn't you?? As mentioned before, given that their
price and used condition is, give it or take it, the same.

Thank you again, kind regards!

P.S. Same lens, same condition, different price: the 'Grandagon-N' is 30% to 50% more expensive.
Which one would you take? Thank you : )!!!

[Bob Salomon]

Hi Bob,
Hi guys,




Thank you for your message : )!!!

The question is because both the 'Grandagon' and 'Grandagon-N' when they are being sold in the same used condition,
both appear to have the same price. It is not always the case, but so far, that has been most of my experience for
the copies I have seen being offered.

So, if they have the same price, let's say both lenses are 90mm. f/6.8 lenses, then I may go for the 'Grandagon-N',
and not for the original 'Grandagon'. This, because even if in general the 'Grandagon-N' is slightly, (or much better),
then I would take the newer version only because it is better. Wouldn't you?? As mentioned before, given that their
price and used condition is, give it or take it, the same.

Thank you again, kind regards!

P.S. Same lens, same condition, different price: the 'Grandagon-N' is 30% to 50% more expensive.
Which one would you take? Thank you : )!!!

Until you physically see the actual lenses you really don’t know their condition.

[Dan Fromm]

So, if they have the same price, let's say both lenses are 90mm. f/6.8 lenses, then I may go for the 'Grandagon-N',
and not for the original 'Grandagon'. This, because even if in general the 'Grandagon-N' is slightly, (or much better),
then I would take the newer version only because it is better. Wouldn't you?? As mentioned before, given that their
price and used condition is, give it or take it, the same.

Hmm. Another optimistic optimizer trying to optimize in considerable, as Bob mentioned, ignorance.

The better is the enemy of the good. That said, both lenses are better than good enough.

[Ig Nacio]

Hi Bob and Dan,

Thank you for your messages : )!!!

Well, you know, you call the dealer of your trust, or visit his website.
There they are, the two lenses: the original 'Grandagon' and the
'Grandagon-N'. What do you make up of the situation?

In my case, I just want to know if there is a difference, so that
later I don't find out that I missed on something. I would like
to keep the lens that I buy for the long run. In part, that's why
ask the questions.

Thank you again, very kind regards!

Ig