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    Stress of Buying Lenses - Sight Unseen / Reputation

    I find it incredibly stressful buying lenses sight unseen... not necessarily the condition, but rather, how the lens draws and it’s characteristics. Some of these lenses command high value in the 8x10 world and it’s hard to get your hands on something to “test it” and see if it’s for you. My dream is a rental company sending out rental glass from old vintage dagors to modern APO Sironar S lenses.

    I know they hold their value but plunking down 1500-2000 and hoping you like it always makes me nervous!


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    I agree! I want an old brass soft focus lens for my 4x5, but I do not know what I am looking at. I have 30+ years in film and digital photography and not an iota of experience with old lenses. I sold off my Cooke PS945 and now I want something similar but antique. Anyone with advice, please share your experience, opinions, etc.

    Much appreciated!
    Darr

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    Re: Stress of Buying Lenses - Sight Unseen / Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    I sold off my Cooke PS945 and now I want something similar but antique. Anyone with advice, please share your experience, opinions, etc.
    Well, the obvious choice is the 9-inch P&S Visual Quality, which the PS945 is based on.

    If people are lucky enough to live where a number of LF photographers are nearby, you may be able to try a few lenses. I've loaned a few of mine out locally with no regrets.
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    Well, the obvious choice is the 9-inch P&S Visual Quality, which the PS945 is based on.

    If people are lucky enough to live where a number of LF photographers are nearby, you may be able to try a few lenses. I've loaned a few of mine out locally with no regrets.
    Yes, I have this lens on a search. Thank you Mark.

    Also want to say how much I enjoyed your pixie portfolio in Lenswork a few years ago.
    I was teaching photography at a technical college and shared your work on the big screen with my students.
    They all loved it as much as I do.

    Kind regard,
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    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    Yes, I have this lens on a search. Thank you Mark.

    Also want to say how much I enjoyed your pixie portfolio in Lenswork a few years ago.
    I was teaching photography at a technical college and shared your work on the big screen with my students.
    They all loved it as much as I do.

    Kind regard,
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    Thank you for the kind words, Darr!

    Not to drift the thread too much, but I wonder how the price of an original 9-inch P&S VQ would compare to the price of the Cooke PS945. Did it drive the price up or down? At an equal price, I'd rather have the original, myself. Of course, we can't talk numbers here, but as a general trend. Also of course, there aren't enough originals to set a trend...

    Having been fortunate enough to use a variety of old soft focus lenses, I think the best value and one of the very best performers is the venerable Verito. There were so many made, they don't command the prices they deserve. But there's a very good reason they were so popular...
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Re: Stress of Buying Lenses - Sight Unseen / Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    Thank you for the kind words, Darr!

    Not to drift the thread too much, but I wonder how the price of an original 9-inch P&S VQ would compare to the price of the Cooke PS945. Did it drive the price up or down? At an equal price, I'd rather have the original, myself. Of course, we can't talk numbers here, but as a general trend. Also of course, there aren't enough originals to set a trend...

    Having been fortunate enough to use a variety of old soft focus lenses, I think the best value and one of the very best performers is the venerable Verito. There were so many made, they don't command the prices they deserve. But there's a very good reason they were so popular...
    I can say that when I bought the PS945 from Badger Graphic ~2005 it was $3500.
    I sold it for the price I paid for it. There is one currently on auction for $5870 used.
    No way, no how would I pay that. It is a nice lens, but IMO not worth more than $3500.

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    Re: Stress of Buying Lenses - Sight Unseen / Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    I can say that when I bought the PS945 from Badger Graphic ~2005 it was $3500.
    I sold it for the price I paid for it. There is one currently on auction for $5870 used.
    No way, no how would I pay that. It is a nice lens, but IMO not worth more than $3500.
    So, you sold yours to soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    So, you sold yours to soon!
    Bob,

    Yes and no. I needed the cash for gear that was used in my paying jobs.
    If the MFD (medium format digital) system could have taken Copal 3, I probably would have sold off something else instead.
    It is all part of the photography journey.

    Kind regards,
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    Re: Stress of Buying Lenses - Sight Unseen / Reputation

    What did you NOT like about the PS945?

    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    I agree! I want an old brass soft focus lens for my 4x5, but I do not know what I am looking at. I have 30+ years in film and digital photography and not an iota of experience with old lenses. I sold off my Cooke PS945 and now I want something similar but antique. Anyone with advice, please share your experience, opinions, etc.

    Much appreciated!
    Darr
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    Re: Stress of Buying Lenses - Sight Unseen / Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Can View Post
    What did you NOT like about the PS945?

    I liked the lens a lot, but needed money towards my digital medium format setup, and the medium format tech camera would not take Copal 3 shutters (too large).
    So I had to trim the gear some. I had put my 4x5 on hold for a few years, but now I am back. I shoot probably as much film as digital now.

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