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    Re: Tetenal gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter De Smidt View Post
    Tim Rudman just posted this on Facebook.

    LOL, another story that came from Buzzfeed?


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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Kent, do you know who Tim Rudman is?
    “You often feel tired, not because you've done too much, but because you've done too little of what sparks a light in you.”
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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Almost none of the chemicals in question are under patent any longer, or really even a trade secret either. It's just a matter of market demand. Even complicated HC-110 can be generically made if necessary. People went into panic about that not long ago, and rumors went flying, when it was really just certain redundant bottle sizes being discontinued.

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Almost none of the chemicals in question are under patent any longer, or really even a trade secret either. It's just a matter of market demand. Even complicated HC-110 can be generically made if necessary. People went into panic about that not long ago, and rumors went flying, when it was really just certain redundant bottle sizes being discontinued.
    Here is another!

    An investigation by Inside Imaging reveals that Kodak Alaris Chairman Mark Elliott recently wrote in a financial report, ‘We are in advanced discussions with a bidder to sell the PPF (Paper, Photochemicals and Film) business and all of its assets.’ http://ow.ly/m7Eb30nzINQ

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    What is Kodak going to be left with, dog whistles?

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Assuming anyone buys it, they will get the rights to the EK name, and anything still made will be from Rochester. Alaris wants out; apparently someone else thinks there's still profit to be made.
    A side note- Fuji swallowed Xerox last year, it would be *interesting* if Fuji wound up owning most of the industry in my home town.

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    Assuming anyone buys it, they will get the rights to the EK name, and anything still made will be from Rochester. Alaris wants out; apparently someone else thinks there's still profit to be made.
    A side note- Fuji swallowed Xerox last year, it would be *interesting* if Fuji wound up owning most of the industry in my home town.
    I sold Rollei studio strobes to the Kodak Research Studio in the early 70s. The manager of the studio was an interesting guy name Earl.
    After the strobes were set up and tested we went to his office. The walls had large gray fabric covering and the only decoration on the walls were green boxes of Fuji film. Being curious I asked him why the Fuji boxes?
    He said they were to remind everyone to look behind them before Fuji caught up.

    We all laughed, but he was right!

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    Assuming anyone buys it, they will get the rights to the EK name, and anything still made will be from Rochester. Alaris wants out; apparently someone else thinks there's still profit to be made.
    A side note- Fuji swallowed Xerox last year, it would be *interesting* if Fuji wound up owning most of the industry in my home town.
    No, it's to do with the Kodak pension fund in the UK needing to divest profitable assets so that it can qualify for the government run pension protection fund. Alaris was paying into the fund (because Alaris is profitable), but at nowhere near the rate needed to make up the shortfall.

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Well, Kodak Alaris is not the Eastman Kodak Company.

    To me, and regarding film products, Alaris is only a nasty commercial intermediary, not adding value but destroying value.

    The problem was that the bankrupted Eastman Kodak Company faced a $2.8 billion claim by the UK Kodak Pension Plan (KPP), to solve that KPP was awared "Droit du seigneur" in the E. Kodak film commercialization and other. My guess is that there was a race to see who earned the more from the film retail price, so the thing ending in a "Tragedy of the commons".

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    Re: Tetenal to be closed - what next?

    Yes, he was right, but Douglas MacArthur was instrumental in resetting Japan to their new course.

    Here is a quote from wikipedia, which seems most appropriate,

    "...in an address to Congress on 19 April 1951, MacArthur declared:

    The Japanese people since the war have undergone the greatest reformation recorded in modern history. With a commendable will, eagerness to learn, and marked capacity to understand, they have from the ashes left in war's wake erected in Japan an edifice dedicated to the supremacy of individual liberty and personal dignity, and in the ensuing process there has been created a truly representative government committed to the advance of political morality, freedom of economic enterprise, and social justice.[291]

    MacArthur handed over power to the Japanese government in 1949, but remained in Japan until relieved by President Harry S. Truman on 11 April 1951. The San Francisco Peace Treaty, signed on 8 September 1951, marked the end of the Allied occupation, and when it went into effect on 28 April 1952, Japan was once again an independent state.[292] The Japanese subsequently gave him the nickname Gaijin Shogun ("foreign military ruler") but not until around the time of his death in 1964.[293]..."

    It is well known we gave Japan many tools and machines to restart their industry. We also jump started their camera business, "Tower Type 3 - 1949 Japanese Leica copy..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    I sold Rollei studio strobes to the Kodak Research Studio in the early 70s. The manager of the studio was an interesting guy name Earl.
    After the strobes were set up and tested we went to his office. The walls had large gray fabric covering and the only decoration on the walls were green boxes of Fuji film. Being curious I asked him why the Fuji boxes?
    He said they were to remind everyone to look behind them before Fuji caught up.

    We all laughed, but he was right!
    Tin Can

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