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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    The winner? 110 instamatic!
    , today this is done with smatphones, so corporations don't buy many cameras...

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    Bob, here there is a list of top wedding photographers I follow what they are doing, shooting 100% film or using film a lot.

    It's not the image quality... 645 film format usually surpasses required IQ but also a D850 dslr does it.

    Film shots have an aesthetic footprint that digital shots may approach to, if wanting that, but results are not the same. Sure José Villa would also make excellent weddings with a dslr, and it's also sure that his Contax 645 has way more practical limitations than a pro dslr... but the film work done by those top notch wedding film shooters is not challenged. Also it has to be said that this is not a temporary trend, they have spent many years in that way, and until I know those shooters are to remain with film. More likely some digital wedding shootters are to move to fuji 160/portra.


    José Villa http://josevilla.com/
    John Dolan http://johndolan.com/portfolios/marriage/
    Greg Finck http://www.gregfinck.com/
    Noa Azoulay http://www.featherlove.com/
    Erich Mcvey http://www.erichmcvey.com/
    Braedon Flynn https://braedonphotography.com/portfolio/Weddings/
    Liz Banfield https://www.lizbanfield.com/weddings
    Judy Pak http://judypak.com/the-details
    Sylvie Gil http://www.sylviegilphotography.com/
    Ryan Ray https://www.ryanrayphoto.com/
    Tec Petaja http://www.tecpetajaphoto.com/
    Elizabeth Messina http://www.elizabethmessina.com/#!/i...love/gallery/1
    Corbin Gurkin https://corbingurkin.com/
    Aaron Delesie http://www.delesieblog.com/
    Eric Kelley http://erickelley.com/portfolio
    Allan Zepeda https://allanzepeda.com/
    Heather Waraksa http://heatherwaraksa.com/
    Charlotte Jenks Lewis http://charlottejenkslewis.com/
    Leo Patrone http://www.leopatronephotography.com/
    KT Merry https://www.ktmerry.com/


    Sylvie, a french photographer established in California, sporting a Contax. She looks happy with it...
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    Re: The comeback of film?

    Wedding photographers. The last refuge of film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pere Casals View Post
    , today this is done with smatphones, so corporations don't buy many cameras...

    ____

    Bob, here there is a list of top wedding photographers I follow what they are doing, shooting 100% film or using film a lot.

    It's not the image quality... 645 film format usually surpasses required IQ but also a D850 dslr does it.

    Film shots have an aesthetic footprint that digital shots may approach to, if wanting that, but results are not the same. Sure José Villa would also make excellent weddings with a dslr, and it's also sure that his Contax 645 has way more practical limitations than a pro dslr... but the film work done by those top notch wedding film shooters is not challenged. Also it has to be said that this is not a temporary trend, they have spent many years in that way, and until I know those shooters are to remain with film. More likely some digital wedding shootters are to move to fuji 160/portra.


    José Villa http://josevilla.com/
    John Dolan http://johndolan.com/portfolios/marriage/
    Greg Finck http://www.gregfinck.com/
    Noa Azoulay http://www.featherlove.com/
    Erich Mcvey http://www.erichmcvey.com/
    Braedon Flynn https://braedonphotography.com/portfolio/Weddings/
    Liz Banfield https://www.lizbanfield.com/weddings
    Judy Pak http://judypak.com/the-details
    Sylvie Gil http://www.sylviegilphotography.com/
    Ryan Ray http://www.ryanrayphoto.com/
    Tec Petaja http://www.tecpetajaphoto.com/
    Elizabeth Messina http://www.elizabethmessina.com/#!/i...love/gallery/1
    Corbin Gurkin https://corbingurkin.com/
    Aaron Delesie http://www.delesieblog.com/
    Eric Kelley http://erickelley.com/portfolio
    Allan Zepeda https://allanzepeda.com/
    Heather Waraksa http://heatherwaraksa.com/
    Charlotte Jenks Lewis http://charlottejenkslewis.com/
    Leo Patrone http://www.leopatronephotography.com/
    KT Merry https://www.ktmerry.com/


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    20 photographers are not going to save film. 20 are a very, very small number. Most cities and towns have far more then 20!!

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    Bob, those Masters of Industry must have as blind as I am now.

    Instamatic was not a bad idea when it was 126, which is square format 35mm film. From age 13, in 1964 I shot Instamatic 100 camera 126 format for years, but when I tried Instamatic 110 film in 1972 even I knew it was crap. Really glad I never fell for the very expensive Pentax 110 SLR!

    Here again is a poor scan of 1964 NYC World's Fair Mustang Intro shot by me on Ektachrome 126 Instamatic 100.

    1964 Mustang Worlds Fair by TIN CAN COLLEGE, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    Bob, those Masters of Industry must have as blind as I am now.

    Instamatic was not a bad idea when it was 126, which is square format 35mm film. From age 13, in 1964 I shot Instamatic 100 camera 126 format for years, but when I tried Instamatic 110 film in 1972 even I knew it was crap. Really glad I never fell for the very expensive Pentax 110 SLR!

    Here again is a poor scan of 1964 NYC World's Fair Mustang Intro shot by me on Ektachrome 126 Instamatic 100.

    1964 Mustang Worlds Fair by TIN CAN COLLEGE, on Flickr
    Randy, maybe so, but I made some very nice 11x14” Cuba’s from a Rollei A110!

    Never got that much from 126.

    But then I also got very good prints from my Minox as well!

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    This is refreshing to hear. Where I live there haven’t been “line ups” for almost 2 decades... and that includes at Freestyle.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob carnie View Post
    Its funny Downtown Camera is the only place where I see lineups of young people , and they are lined up to drop off or pick up film.. the Hostert Dip and Dunk machine allows the technicians to easily load any film and it is a very consistent machine, therefore they can keep the price low for the developing as they are selling the used film camera,film, develop,contact or scans, small proofs, and minilab prints, instore they have ready made frames to go... I think they are perfectly situated to do this business well, I believe they will be a huge success as this company is family owned and are running 7 days a week and deeply committed to photographers. not to mention they sell Leicas high end..

    I personally buy all my photo paper, chemistry, alternative supplies that they stock as I want them to be successful and I support small business.

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    Re: The comeback of film?

    I was given a Minox age 7 in 1958 and developed the film myself without help.

    But never got beyond Minox contact prints as father forbid an enlarger as frivolous even if I bought one with my paper route cash.

    All film processed by mail until I finally took a college photography class in 1998 age 47. Tiny consumer digital was just then available. I bought a Nikon Coolpix 100 and did all assignments with film and tiny digital.

    Interesting that that 0.3 MP sensor made a 512 X 480 image which is the same size as the crappy Mustang scan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    Randy, maybe so, but I made some very nice 11x14” Cuba’s from a Rollei A110!

    Never got that much from 126.

    But then I also got very good prints from my Minox as well!
    Tin Can

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    Re: The comeback of film?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    This is refreshing to hear. Where I live there haven’t been “line ups” for almost 2 decades... and that includes at Freestyle.
    Yes I was quite amazed, last sunday as the doors opened at noon two kids butted in front of me to get in with their film, they seemed to be in a hurry, I have not seen this for at least 20 years at this location

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    Re: The comeback of film?

    Quote Originally Posted by faberryman View Post
    Wedding photographers. The last refuge of film.
    Frank, you look happy with film extintion...

    Film has only a tinny share of the wedding photography (1/10000 ?), but yes... top notch wedding photographers are one of the last refuges in film commercial photography.

    Another refuge is some selected movie productions, as mentioned Episode 9 is right now being shot on film, a product that will raise beyond 1 billion.

    The strong refuges are artists and amateurs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    20 photographers are not going to save film. 20 are a very, very small number. Most cities and towns have far more then 20!!
    Of course, but those 20, mostly leading the rankings of best wedding photographers, are pointing that film is just an excellent choice when a high quality output matters, their exemplary work enlights for those wanting to engage this way.

    From the 960 million/y rolls (2003) peak present production is over some 20 million, but now increasing by some 6% yearly. There are good and bad news. Fuji killed Neopan, but kodak recovers P3200 and Ektachrome...

    If they kill film we'll make dry plates and lumieres, it is true that film was "critically endangered", now perhaps we are in "vulnerable" situation, so at least we have an improvement.
    Last edited by Pere Casals; 14-Dec-2018 at 18:13. Reason: corrected, 20 million

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    I am more worried about loss of contact and enlarging paper as many 'film nuts' scan for digital output.

    I don't want to make emulsions of any kind...
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