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    Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

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    Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    Now is the time to start. There is something of a renaissance in analog photography right now. B&W 4x5 film will be around for at least another 30 years.

    As for resale value if you buy pretty much any decent condition 4x5 camera, and two modern lenses and a few holders you’ll be able to sell them back for more or less the same price you bought them for.

    There are also some very cheap but adequate new options like the 4x5 Bulldog and the Chroma which will not hold their value as well but are a cheaper way to get into LF. Think of owning them as paying a rental fee.

    8x10 is a whole different level of expense and complication for relatively modest benefit over 4x5. So I’d start with 4x5 and learn the craft and if (big if) you decide to go bigger you can always sell you 4x5 rig.


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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by strayblank View Post
    would this be a poor investment?
    ;-) ... No

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    This is complicated by the fact that many of the brands and models detailed in the books I've read no longer exist. The used equipment remaining from before is then contrasted against modern equipment, like Chamonix or Calumet, which I have absolutely no knowledge of. So where ought I begin? Considering the tenuous future of film negative production,
    Well, maybe you should take a mono-rail into consideration. For instance, you can find a 4x5 Sinar F1 or F2 for a price around $ 500.
    300 to 500 more for a modern APO 150 mm, 20 for each sheat film holder, 150 a tripod, 300 a spotmeter.

    Then you'll have to buy film...

    A monorail is symmetrical and this is going to help you a lot in understanding movements (and has the biggest freedom of movements).


    Quote Originally Posted by strayblank View Post
    I'd really like to get a hefty 8x10, which would probably clear out my savings. Perhaps it would feel well worth it, though. I've considered a 4x5, but my worry there is that by the time I decide I want to try out another camera, I might not be able to get enough resale value out of it to recoup enough cash to upgrade.
    You should be able to resale it for the same price.

    8x10 quadruples 4x5 in every things ;-)

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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ventdesable View Post
    ;-) ... No



    Well, maybe you should take a mono-rail into consideration. For instance, you can find a 4x5 Sinar F1 or F2 for a price around $ 500.
    300 to 500 more for a modern APO 150 mm, 20 for each sheat film holder, 150 a tripod, 300 a spotmeter.

    Then you'll have to buy film...

    A monorail is symmetrical and this is going to help you a lot in understanding movements (and has the biggest freedom of movements).




    You should be able to resale it for the same price.

    8x10 quadruples 4x5 in every things ;-)

    J
    By symettrical are you referring to the type of movements or do you mean that the front and rear both have movements?

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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    By symettrical are you referring to the type of movements or do you mean that the front and rear both have movements?
    Yep ;-)

    I mean that as front and rear standards are identical, it is then a lot easier to understand how things are going. And, you can select one movement at a time compared to a folding where you have front standard tilt and shift that are locked by only one knob for instance.

    I see that I'm not the only one to refer to a monorail...

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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by strayblank View Post
    Considering the tenuous future of film negative production, would this be a poor investment?
    Yes, in the case of your 8x10 choice! Think about the fact that the LF photography will just give you pictures (at your expense!), not any financial reward. In this sense it is not any investment, just an expense. Don't start LF photo with a film format that carries additional problems to solve. Start with a 4x5, more than enough to please you with its photographic results.

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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    I highly advise staying away from 8x10 to start. It will eat money faster than you can replace it. The suggestion of buying a used monorail camera, something like a Cambo NX2, will be a cheap but good entry. I see them selling on ebay for <$400 with a nice lens! They are bulky and not what you'd want to hike all day with, but otherwise you are getting a lot for your money. You should be able to get most of your money back out of something like that. Most all of my camera gear was bought used, generally from ebay.


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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    A used Calumet 400 series with a lens will set you back under $200 if you look around a bit. 6 film holders, a light meter and a cable release less than $100 more. You can make a dark cloth. Carry bag is simple. Smallish drink cooler from a thrift store if you don't already have a bag to use.

    The old monorail cameras are easy to use. The Calumets, Burke and James and Kodak metal monorails were not expensive when new and are still inexpensive on the used market.

    A 4x5 enlarger can be had for low cost to "please take this thing off my hands".

    If and when you decide to move to a larger format you don't lose much at all because you did not pay much for the gear.
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    Re: Where to start? Is it too late to start? Beginner seeking advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie View Post
    A used Calumet 400 series with a lens will set you back under $200 if you look around a bit. 6 film holders, a light meter and a cable release less than $100 more. You can make a dark cloth. Carry bag is simple. Smallish drink cooler from a thrift store if you don't already have a bag to use.

    The old monorail cameras are easy to use. The Calumets, Burke and James and Kodak metal monorails were not expensive when new and are still inexpensive on the used market.

    A 4x5 enlarger can be had for low cost to "please take this thing off my hands".

    If and when you decide to move to a larger format you don't lose much at all because you did not pay much for the gear.
    +1
    I sold a Calumet CC-400 a few years back for even less than that. It's a bare-bones camera, butt-simple and great to learn on. Besides, it was used by Ansel Adams to illustrate movements in Camera & Lens, the first book of his Basic Photo Series. So, it's a book-worthy camera. 4x5 is big enough to contact print. Get comfortable with that and then re-evaluate the whole 8x10 thing

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    I would start with a 4x5. There are so many things that are simpler. You can develop the film in a tank, not a tray so you don't need a darkroom to do it. Lenses are a lot easier to find and cheaper, you should be able to find a standard lens for under £200. I got a monorail, lens and various boards and accessories for £350, and that was enough to get me started. You can get everything you need online, in a day and be ready to start shooting when it arrives. It would be a lot harder and more time consuming to source a 8x10 kit, things like film holders are just that much more difficult to find. All decent, non-electronic film equipment seems to be holding its value or apprieciating, so if you buy carefully all you are doing is storing your money in that equipment. With luck you should get it all back or maybe even make a profit.

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