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    Lightbulb Petzval lens identify

    Recently I got a petzval lens which seems 210mm F3, unfortunately because of time and rust, it lost all words on lens barrel only left this mark. So, does anyone know this trademark belong to? Thanks.

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    It looks like Peerless portrait lens which was Manufactured by Scovill.Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    This engraving has been seen before - wish I could remember in which context!

    I know that there are obvious differences between the printed trademark shown above and the engraved version - but, essentially, it is the same.

    I blame Gasc et Charconnet for these confused "overlay" engravings. They started this trend with their less than artistic trademark which included their Christian names Albert and Alphonse.

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    Quote Originally Posted by lucaas View Post
    It looks like Peerless portrait lens which was Manufactured by Scovill.Click image for larger version. 

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    I agree w/ Lucaas. Peerless Portrait.

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    Quote Originally Posted by lucaas View Post
    It looks like Peerless portrait lens which was Manufactured by Scovill.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Pacilla View Post
    I agree w/ Lucaas. Peerless Portrait.
    Thank you Lucaas and Louis, the mark of Scovill is M.S. but my lens is something like C.M. ? So that's same or different?

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    This engraving has been seen before - wish I could remember in which context!

    I know that there are obvious differences between the printed trademark shown above and the engraved version - but, essentially, it is the same.

    I blame Gasc et Charconnet for these confused "overlay" engravings. They started this trend with their less than artistic trademark which included their Christian names Albert and Alphonse.
    I'm sure I seen this mark before in largeformatphotography forum, but I cann't find it ......

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    C is for Company - you can see Co on the paper trademark. M is perhaps Manufact....

    The engraved sequence is SCM or SMC (Scovill Manufacturing Company)?

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    here is my old thread about the same logo http://www.largeformatphotography.in...anufacturer-id
    looks like the rusty one in this thread and both have only a slight similarity with the Scovill logo.

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    Yes, there is absolutely no S there.

    So my guess would be an American importer of French lenses. Only person I can think of is H. Codman & Co.
    who had the agency in the USA for Gasc & Charconnet for sometime. G et C had a very similar trademark design for the period when Codman had the agency.

    Nothing on the lens edge?

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    Re: Petzval lens identify

    Some photos from the P et P french lens series.

    Note that the "circular" text is quite unusual in engraving and was used by G et C (and their successors) for years. The other one is the known Codman engraving, which doesn't exclude there being others.
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