Agree in general but that does not apply to the PBP bags. All versions of them have been just slightly modified versions of existing real backpacks. The main modification has been the addition of of a female/loop velcro "backerboard" which is extremely light weight. From there one can use numerous inserts or not which stick to the backer board. I use a 3 lens case and camera case, both of which are very light weight. My other gear just gets stuffed around those. This scenario doesn't mean much if one uses 7x17 however
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