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    Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between

    Hi All you digital image makers I am wondering is I can get some advice .. PS that is..

    Is there a way in CS3(that is what I use) to quickly see a visual of the shadow, quarter tone, mid tone , 3/4 tone , mid highlight and finally highlight of an existing Black and White file.

    What I want to end up on screen is 6 different representations of a scene, localize them and make printing negatives of them..

    I have figured out how to do the low end and the high end but I am having trouble with everything in between.

    I am using these negatives for multiple hit overtop of palladium.....THINK QUAD TONE TONING WITH SILVER GELATIN... something that I do with silver and I
    am trying to work this out for palladium.

    thanks

    Bob

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    Re: Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between




    You can make a series of separate layers, where each layer is consists of a certain section of the tonal scale.

    The first image above contains the whole scale from 0 to 255.

    The second image goes from 83 to 151... but you can choose any sections you like.

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    Re: Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between

    Ken, that is exactly what I do for my two tone carbons (attempting 3 tone eventually). Works quite well.

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    Re: Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between

    Ken - looks like exactly what I need thank you , I will report back

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    I would love to see these as well tri tone.
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    Ken, that is exactly what I do for my two tone carbons (attempting 3 tone eventually). Works quite well.

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    I forgot to mention that it's very easy to bring up this feature.

    Just double-click on any layer (where the red arrow points) and the Layer Style window will come up with the right options already set: the only thing we need to do is adjust the This Layer sliders.

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    Re: Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between

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    Note that you can break up the lf sliders by holding 'alt' on a pc and left clicking and dragging on the the slider. See the picture. This with smooth out the transition.


    Another option would be to set up an action that produces luminosity masks and uses these masks to produce the desired layers. These would have less abrupt transitions than the lf slider approach.
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    Re: Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between

    Could you go more into detail..

    Thanks to Ken the Blend if feature looks great for my applications..

    When I took Dan Margulis courses he used blend if A LOT but he never broke down an image for this applications and the feature seemed useless for my apps.
    I imagine in the right hands it could be a very powerful tool , I need to research this more.

    I uses a method of lightening a colour in BW conversion so that I can punch the colour back in .. this was part of my work around.
    But I can see with colour the Blend if may be a very powerful tool for isolating colours and using them as extra hit negative.s
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    Note that you can break up the lf sliders by holding 'alt' on a pc and left clicking and dragging on the the slider. See the picture. This with smooth out the transition.


    Another option would be to set up an action that produces luminosity masks and uses these masks to produce the desired layers. These would have less abrupt transitions than the lf slider approach.

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    Re: Highlight Midtone Shadow and all in between

    Thanks for posting the link to Tony's PS actions and masks.

    I use them a great deal and find them to be very handy and powerful.

    I have played around with the 'Blend If' method a little, but find Tony's masks better suited for me.

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