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  1. #11

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    Things to know about a "commission"

    Ellis is absolutely correct that if you are a big dog, doing heroic photography for multinational corporations, you need a sharp lawyer on permanent retainer. Furthermore, you must absolutely wallpaper the client with forms and binding written agreements. Big dogs routinely sell to MBA’s who purchase photography for a living, know all the dirty tricks and need to be watched very carefully.

    But the major point of my answer to you is focused on my read that you are an amateur contemplating his first commission for a small client. Which is more like the situation I was in: a two-man commercial studio in the New England Rust Belt servicing corporations with about one hundred employees.

    The point is that the general public has absolutely no idea what LF photography costs to produce. Just add up the price of a box of 4x5 film, a gallon each of developer, stop and fixer. Add your cost for a box of 16x20 paper with all the chemicals. Then tack on your total time, from loading holders and mixing chemicals, through shooting, processing, mounting, spotting, framing, to final delivery of the prints. Even billed at what McDonalds pays the french-fry maker, the combined total has got to reach a thousand dollars.

    Present that kind of bill to a business owner and he will go into cardiac arrest. I guarantee you he was thinking more like 1/36th the cost of a roll of 35mm film and processing at Wal-Mart. And it doesn’t make sense to hire a five-thousand-dollar-a day law firm to chase him for the money. He doesn’t have it. And you can’t afford the lawyer.

    Andre had the best idea. Trade him a dinner for two for each print. And collect as you go. Don’t let the bill pile up.

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    Things to know about a "commission"

    you need a sharp lawyer on
    permanent retainer


    No you don't and i don't know how you drew that conclusion from what I wrote. In twenty years of being in business, I've only needed to hire a lawyer three times. You do need to apply common sense. Otherwise you find yourself in the situation John found himself in.

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    Things to know about a "commission"

    John, you're correct in that I am an "amateur" as far as commissions go which is why I asked for the advice. It's all helpful in letting me make an informed decision as to how to proceed. Thanks to everyone who shared their wisdom and experience.

    Angelo Micheletti

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    Things to know about a "commission"

    " . . . that nice guys don't have to be suckers."

    Why do I feel a reaction to that statement?

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