Fake 1850s Voigtlander lens

[Steven Tribe]

Your finding of the Chrome/nickel plated at MW made me look at this "fake" again.

The two screw mounting for the tangential drive was used by Voigtländer at this period. It was not too common - off-hand I can only think of early Ross.

The Waterhouse cut-out is positioned directly opposite the drive and it could have covered the entire engraved text.

[CCHarrison]

The build of the fake lens is really different than genuine Voigtlanders if you look at the edges of the various barrel parts... Its not a genuine Voigtlander with a different sleeve...
Lastly, many 1/4 plate sized Petzvals had two screw mounting holes for the rack in pinion...larger lenses had 4 holes....

Dan

[CCHarrison]

Steven,

Here are some of the differences in barrel construction that I see as being different.

Dan

[Steven Tribe]

Nice piece of work! It helps when you have the genuine article in front of you!

[Emil Schildt]

hi Dan
not to hijack your thread but I noticed this Voigtländer Portrait euryscope with a very high serial number..

285401 which according to your list should be from approx 1927-28

did they make these lenses so late? (excuse my ignorance)

[Tim Deming]

Hi Dan,

Why does your authentic #3626 have no threads for attaching a hood? Is the lens tube flipped in the sleeve (threads for hood on the bottom), or was this really a "hoodless" model?

Emil, That portrait Euryscope looked suspicious to me as well --I'm inclined to think it's a fake. The "hood" on the bottom is unlike any other brass Voigtlander lens I've seen. The engraving is also atypical (late euryscops didnt have script engravings, they looked more like stamped lettering)

cheers

Tim

[eddie]

so eye candy for those interested.

this is my 16 inch f3ish Voigtlander #46xx. it still has Wien printed on it.....too bad it did not only have wein on it!

anyway here are some pictures of the engraving, brass, focus dial mounting parts and the hood attachment threads.....too bad i am missing the hood!

also note how the front of the barrel is attached by six screws. hhhhmmm?

anyway a few extra pictures here.

thanks

eddie

[CCHarrison]

Eddie - "Wein" was always listed on their lenses - it was Braunschweig that was added about serial # 3800

Dan

[Steven Tribe]

Engraved Wien was given up around 1888 and machine engraving (like Emil's) was started in 1898."& Sohn" is often not included in the engraving design - starting about 1920.
I am sure Emil's is OK - copying machine engraving requires a similar machine. I can't find it advertised as late as 1927, but Photographers were/are very conservative and Voigtländer had all the tools available still.
I like Eddie's special "gear box"!

[CCHarrison]

I noticed the gear box as well. Never saw that one before.