Curious to know if Goerz ever made a Double Anastigmat in f4.6 or f4.8. I've seen a lens that is branded by a third part as Double Anastigmat f4.6, German made in early 1900's, is it likely?
Curious to know if Goerz ever made a Double Anastigmat in f4.6 or f4.8. I've seen a lens that is branded by a third part as Double Anastigmat f4.6, German made in early 1900's, is it likely?
F4.6, no. F4.8, yes; some Celors, some Dogmars. Dialyte types, not dagor types. But many makers made double anastigmats.
How about this: http://www.earlyphotography.co.uk/site/entry_L56.html
In the description of the very first lens it implies that Goerz had their own system of stops, and that Goerz 4.6 = f/6.8, so it seems like the lens you're referencing is a G 4.6, not an f/4.6.
Ok, maybe that is what it is, it also has an f stop at f192.
Colin, are you trying to convince yourself that a lens not engraved Goerz was made by Goerz?
Curious Dan, just curious. I know that Certo used third party lenses on their MF cameras, Schneider, Zeiss & Goerz to name a few. I already have a C.P. Goerz 135mm and was curious about a lens on fleabay that reads Double Anastigmat 135mm branded Certo, if was likely to be Goerz I would be interested in buying it to compare, and it has a shutter. Here it is, I didn't buy it.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CERTO-DOP...vip=true&rt=nc
Thanks for posting the link. Eustigmat is, according to the VM, a Rodenstock trade name, an f/7.2 dialyte type.
The lens you asked about is an f/6.3er, so engraved. This doesn't match the shutter, gives the impression that the cells may have been reshuttered. It also doesn't match Rodenstock's Eustigmat.
As I said, many many many manufacturers made double anastigmats. Double anastigmat is not a Goerz trade name and carries little information about design type and none about maker.
Thanks Dan, that is interesting and informative. There were enough signs to put doubt on it being a Goerz which kept me from buying it, just as well be the sounds of it.
Oh, dear, another innocent (?) seduced by the appeal of name brands. I don't want to suggest that a Eustigmat is a great treasure but the one you asked about wasn't that expensive. If you needed a slowish 135 it might have pleased you. If, though, you have too many 135s already or wanted a for-sure dagor type I can understand your not buying the Eustigmat simply to find out what it is and can do.
When I was starting out I didn't think I could afford name brand LF lenses, bought some off brand lenses that were surprisingly good and that got me to try other lenses from their makers. That's how I got into Boyer lenses. Understand, not all of the lenses that Boyer made are that good, but their better ones are good and were amazing values when I bought them. If you can afford to indulge curiosity or have faith that you can resell lenses you don't like without losing much, then you should indulge yourself.
I certainly don't have the time or money or inclination to buy shoot and sell continuously with a long shot hope of miraculously finding something special or something I might like or suits my needs. One well credentialed member from here kindly provided me with a extensive history of the variants and explanation on Dagor qualities a few months ago via a PM for which I am extremely grateful and which gave me the impetuous to look for them. That Certo lens might have been cheap, but it wasn't what I was after, simple as that.
BTW I made an error by stating I have a 135mm Dagor, it is actually 8.25", very nice too.
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