Developer (newb question)

[Michael Lloyd]

I just developed film (4x5) for the first time yesterday (not counting when I was in the third grade). I used Ilford DD-X developer with Ilford Delta 100. I have some TMax that I've been wanting to try too but I'm not sure if I should use DD-X or something else.

To be honest I thought that I would develop the first negatives and get it out of my system but the opposite seems to be happening.

I've done a little reading and apparently I don't have to use Ilford chemicals with Ilford film, etc. Bearing in mind that I'm a newb, the question is: what other developers should I consider and why?

[C_Remington]

Too broad.

[Leigh]

Hi Michael,

I addressed this in more detail in the other thread.

I think Fuji Acros developed in Rodinal will produce the images you want.
Rodinal has the advantage of virtually infinite shelf life, even in partially-used containers.

- Leigh

[polyglot]

You can use any brand of developer with any film, to varying effect. Pretty hard to go wrong with DD-X.

[Mark Barendt]

DD-X is great. It is easy to use, produces great negatives, and can be used with any traditional B&W film.

Data sheet http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/...7124733149.pdf This shows some of the other film's times and temps. With unlisted films do a test sheet or two with a guessed time to find a ball park time. As with all developers the listed times are just a place to start anyway, over time you'll find your own preferences for time and temp.

As to what others you should try. IMO none, at least not until you can identify a problem DD-X can't solve, or some different characteristic that you might want.

The reason I say this is that switching developers is about fine tuning your processes, i.e. which seat you want after you are in the ball park, regardless of where you sit you'll see the same game, you'll just get a slightly different view. Choosing different films on the other hand is more like choosing which ballpark to go to, you'll see the same sport but have a different story when you leave.

[Regular Rod]

I just developed film (4x5) for the first time yesterday (not counting when I was in the third grade). I used Ilford DD-X developer with Ilford Delta 100. I have some TMax that I've been wanting to try too but I'm not sure if I should use DD-X or something else.

To be honest I thought that I would develop the first negatives and get it out of my system but the opposite seems to be happening.

I've done a little reading and apparently I don't have to use Ilford chemicals with Ilford film, etc. Bearing in mind that I'm a newb, the question is: what other developers should I consider and why?

OBSIDIAN AQUA for its amazing shelf life, economy and peerless performance with Ilford Delta (and others).

RR

[LuisR]

Try Pyro with any of the Ilford films; Acros is double the price of Ilford. Pyro and large format photo are a match made in heaven. Just ask any master of 20th century large format photo. Specifically, try Pyrocat-HD in glycol.

[ic-racer]

One can get good negatives with just about any developer on the market. Developer characteristics to consider are ease of use, storage characteristics, working volume, working temp.

[photobymike]

http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php go there for times and film information

I have been using Pyrocat HD Glycol with with delta 100 and 400 as well Tmax 100 and 400. And depending on what i am shooting i always over expose by at least a half stop and as much as a full stop on portraits ....


1. Use pipettes to measure. This stuff is so concentrated that being off a small amount effects your out come.

2. I presoak for 5 minutes at development temperature. I change out the water 2 or 3 times for the presoak. It is needed to wash away the halation barrier. This has always been important... use distilled water... the PH is slightly acid which is ok... tap water who knows what it is.....

3. Use rubber gloves when handling this substance. If you use it a lot, it can accumulate in your system and be toxic.

4. Use distilled water for mixing. I use distilled water for all of my photo chemicals anyway.

5. The negatives scan really well with my scanner V750 epson. I seem to have a longer dynamic range by at least one stop.

6. I use a Beseler roller for development... but it seems to like stand alone tank with moderate agitation...twirl the reels in my paterson tanks.....4x5 always are rolled....

7. Dilute your Stop Bath... to strong and you get pin holes. Use a stop bath to get the film ready for the acid in your fixer. Some photo guys use just water for the stop bath... but i have found that just a little acid stop works better. i use alkli fixer especially for T-grain films.. for an extra 3 minutes. I have also used Kodak rapid fixer without the hardener works well. Fix for an extra 3 minutes for a total of 8 minutes

8. When you get ready to mix your developer. Roll your bottles of concentrate before using... there seems to be some separation and precipitate on the cap after sitting for a couple of days. Do not shake but make sure concentrate is mixed.

9. Because of the tanning (hardening effect) of the developer it seems the emulsion needs more washing than normal film.... i use very strong hypo clear (Orbit) for 2 minutes each in 2 baths with vigorous agitation.

10. I take the film off the reels and soak for 30 secs in Photo-Flo. Most important; I use distilled water to mix Photo-Flo. If you use regular water or tap water you will see a sledge or slim on your finished negs... The i use a very clean sponge to wipe away the excess Photo-Flo.

I do all of this and what i end up with is beautiful chocolate colored negatives that scan really well.

Any thing to add to these observations, or maybe some questions.

[Michael Lloyd]

I need to digest all of this. One quick observation (Leigh led me there but this thread cemented it). Developing a negative isn't the process that I thought it was. I thought that X film with Y time in Z developer was all there was to it and it's not. Everything has a variable range to work within and it's on me to figure that range out. Mike- I like the details! Thank you.