Protar 9.5cm?

[Ole Tjugen]

If I remember correctly, Zeiis made 9 different Protars, and two of the "Series" were re-used for different designs. That's 11 different types of Zeiss Protar. Add the licensed products from B&J, Krauss, and others, and you're up to a large enough number that it's hopeless without more information. The only thing that could be worse is "Anastigmat", and most of the Protars were originally called Anastigmat...

[Chauncey Walden]

When you've been around the list longer you'll realize that Dan is a fountain of good and sometimes rare information. True, sometimes it is a bitter fountain, but the quench is worth the taste. Ole is more diplomatic. The bottom line is, the more information you furnish when asking a question, the better the answer.

[Dan Fromm]

I made a minor mistake, I forgot that Zeiss weren't the only people to make Protars.

Does it give Dan the right to speak to me like he did? Of course not, and it's not the first time he's called me unsavoury names, hence I spoke up. In future, I don't care to have any discourse with him whatsoever due to his attitude.

Ian, you were cruel in a large way. You didn't specify anything about the lens but its focal length. As has been pointed out, there are many types of Protars. Maker is irrelevant, you've just popped off about something that isn't important. What matters in trying to puzzle out which Protar is meant is, as Ole has already stated, series number and maximum aperture.

I have no idea what you are. I know what you're acting like. If you take that as a direct insult, try to be more thoughtful.

By the way, if you'd spent some time exploring the cameraeccentric site you'd know that Ole's comments to the effect that the name Protar covers many types is spot on. You'd also have discovered that B&L's Protars were originally made under license from CZJ. So were, and I'm sure I missed some licensees, Protars made by Koristka, Krauss, Ross and Suter. What goes for a CZJ Protar ser x with max aperture f/y goes for all such Protars from other makers.

Chauncey, I think it is time for a gin and tonic all 'round. The tonic's quinine wards off malaria, and the malaria season is underway.

[Chauncey Walden]

And, Dan, you never know when you may have to travel to some part of the world where there may be mosquitoes!

[Ian Greenhalgh]

Ian, you were cruel in a large way. You didn't specify anything about the lens but its focal length. As has been pointed out, there are many types of Protars. Maker is irrelevant, you've just popped off about something that isn't important. What matters in trying to puzzle out which Protar is meant is, as Ole has already stated, series number and maximum aperture.

I have no idea what you are. I know what you're acting like. If you take that as a direct insult, try to be more thoughtful.

By the way, if you'd spent some time exploring the cameraeccentric site you'd know that Ole's comments to the effect that the name Protar covers many types is spot on. You'd also have discovered that B&L's Protars were originally made under license from CZJ. So were, and I'm sure I missed some licensees, Protars made by Koristka, Krauss, Ross and Suter. What goes for a CZJ Protar ser x with max aperture f/y goes for all such Protars from other makers.

Chauncey, I think it is time for a gin and tonic all 'round. The tonic's quinine wards off malaria, and the malaria season is underway.

The thing I took as a direct insult was the direct insult you hurled, you called me a fool and were generally extremely unpleasant. You might be knowledgable, but you're also incredibly rude and obnoxious.