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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    Colin, my lens does not have a soft-focus function, but because of focus shift, I stop down then focus.
    This could apply to Cooke SF lenses as well, though I'm not sure at what stage to apply the SF.
    My first guess would be stop down, apply the SF, then focus; then again, would one stop down AND apply SF as well?

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    I don't know if it's correct or not, but I always set the soft focus ring to the number I want and then focus on the ground glass.

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    With soft focus lenses, there is always a pronounced focus shift. Soft focus is achieved through spherical aberration*, which is also the cause of focus shift. As you close the aperture, the spherical aberration goes away and the focus shifts. So always focus a soft lens at the taking aperture.

    Also, on lenses with adjustable soft focus, (Cooke Portrait, Series II Velostigmat, Portrait Unar, Dallmeyer B series, Universal Heliar...), always refocus after setting the softness where you want it.

    * except a few rarities that achieve soft focus through chromatic aberration, but even then, the same principal holds true.
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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    With soft focus lenses, there is always a pronounced focus shift. Soft focus is achieved through spherical aberration*, which is also the cause of focus shift. As you close the aperture, the spherical aberration goes away and the focus shifts. So always focus a soft lens at the taking aperture.

    Also, on lenses with adjustable soft focus, (Cooke Portrait, Series II Velostigmat, Portrait Unar, Dallmeyer B series, Universal Heliar...), always refocus after setting the softness where you want it.

    * except a few rarities that achieve soft focus through chromatic aberration, but even then, the same principal holds true.
    Doesn't come any clearer! (pun intented.. )

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    My reference is found on this website. http://www.antiquecameras.net/softfocuslenses2.html Screen snip from this website for educational purposes only.


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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    Betti

    13x18cm paper negative

    Cooke 300mm 3.5 full soft
    Lovely portrait!

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    My reference is found on this website. http://www.antiquecameras.net/softfocuslenses2.html Screen snip from this website for educational purposes only.
    Just to round it out, here's a page from the 1930's Cooke catalogue at http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/info/cooke_2.html which explains, "The portrait should always be re-focused after diffusion to insure obtaining the exact effect desired." ( suspect this is the later reference you refered to, Randy?) Wollensak put out similar conflicting information on the Velostigmat Series II. I suspect some of the advertising copy may have been written by people with little photographic knowledge...

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    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    Thank you all very kindly. With this in mind I will have more images with the Cooke here soon.

    Tim

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    A recent image with a 10.5" Cooke IIE, at f8 with no soft.

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    It fits perfectly on a 5x7 Home Portrait Graflex.

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    Re: Cookin' with Cooke! Please Post u'r Cooke Portrait lens shots

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    Just to round it out, here's a page from the 1930's Cooke catalogue at http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/info/cooke_2.html which explains, "The portrait should always be re-focused after diffusion to insure obtaining the exact effect desired." ( suspect this is the later reference you refered to, Randy?) Wollensak put out similar conflicting information on the Velostigmat Series II. I suspect some of the advertising copy may have been written by people with little photographic knowledge...

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    Yes, and there may be one more page somewhere.

    I was confused in my early usage as I wanted to believe the pioneers...

    ...and the early way sounds easier!
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