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Alright Ted. Thanks. Bye.

Nothing I said was uncivil! If you want me to, I can get that way though. If anyone has been uncivil in this debate, it has been you and I would appreciate you not referring to my ethnic heritage...

You keep dancing around the same tune (whilst singing, typing and wearing a kilt).

You state that permit requirements that meet constitutional requirements are legal, (we are not in disagreement...

So educate me. What points or requirements of the permit system are unconstitutional? Enumerate them. If you can't explain them to me how do you ever expect to explain them to a jury?

What does...

You really have no case here. You have not been denied any 'rights' because you have not applied and been rejected.

I read it to and it seems to me that their only goal is to know who is doing...

By your own admission, you have not and will not apply for a permit. How do you know it's administered in an unconstitutional manner?

Do not twist what I said. 'We' have not established anything of the sort. There is no 'right' to make a photograph nor any 'right' to unrestricted access. All individual rights are balanced...

Your 'right' to make a photograph has not been infringed. Only your 'right' to access an area you believe you have a 'right' of access to.

No one was preventing you from going somewhere else to...

Your argument has been for the right to create without restriction, not the right to express. Still two separate acts. What doesn't seem to stick with you is that public safety and welfare trump...

This is why America was set up as a Republic and has disintegrated into a democracy. Have you considered taking this issue up with your local representatives?

Waving is not creating. Painting the banner is not expressing. They are two separate actions and are not dependent on one another. If I flash the social finger at someone, I am expressing not...

Your argument is still based on the assumption that creative acts must lead to expression. This is simply not true. You can paint a banner, write a leaflet or make a photograph without any...

Every act of creation does not necessarily lead to expression. Therefore creation and expression can be completely separate processes.




If you read the definition of expression in the link I...

This is not a case of free expression. This is a case of you wanting to, as was stated earlier 'haul that marble slab' into a place that requires a permit to do so.
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You are right in that the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are not an exclusive list of our rights. This was the basis of argument between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists. And why,...

I've read with interest all the posts under this topic. The one question that has not been asked or answered is ..... (drum roll please)..... why didn't you just let everyone concerned know what you...

I do not claim to be an expert nor do I play one on T.V. but it seems to me that when we first learn a craft, it is definitely more about competency than creativity. At some point (hopefully) the...

Received yesterday in Seattle

Still not in Seattle. Wonder if I can convert to the download version?

As of yesterday in the Seattle area, I have not received mine. Have checked yet today.

I'm always leery of start-ups. I have been burned in the past. Thanks for the info though.

Kent

If you find any that aren't doing any digital, let me know. I would be genuinely interested in knowing who they are. "Black and White Magazine", "Black and White Photography" and most others I know...

I like lenswork. I don't like every photo in it, but overall I'm very happy with the magazines' content and quality.

It seems there are a few here who have elevated mechanics above content. ...

Here in the Mill Creek area.

Well, that's good for 5 seconds.:D

Kent

You're assuming I'm polite????

Kent

I would like to collect the sayings, poems and ditties that were used by our large format ancestors to judge exposure for both film and printing. I hope someone can help me out.

Thanks,

Kent

What I was talking about were strongly selenium toned warm papers, cyanotypes, viradon or gold toned, hand colored etc. They are not strictly monochromatic though based on monochrome materials.

I...

I would be interested to know how chemically toned photographs fit into this? They are not technically monochrome after strong toning and would seem to fall into a category of their own.

Kent

As I understand it, some organizations that are concerned about the transitory nature of digital (ie. the National Archives, Library of Congress and such) have decided that the only way to guarantee...

If one studies the history of photography, it is very clear that the introduction and obsolescence of both materials and processes has been an issue from the beginning. It is remarkable how many...

"I was just at a show which exhibited about 20 digital images of flowers. The images were made from a 12 mgp camera. The imager that made these images is very good at his craft. None of the images...

Thanks Erich,

I wasn't sure if I was thinking through the process correctly.

Kent

OK before anyone jumps on this, I know that split contrast printing has been debated to death but I have a question about the process. So here goes....be gentle with me...

I may be completely off...

While excess waste is a concern, I think there is a grave danger to keeping these sorts of things 'too much' in peoples faces. That danger is called overload.

For example, I spent part of my...

So this wasn't 100's of thousands of cans? 40 cans? So this is a contrived scene? Rather misrepresentative isn't it?

When I was in the USAF I remember building beer can mountains against the...

And there are truck loads of money to made by scientists and environmental groups. See, no crisis=no funding. My brother is an astro-physicist working in Arizona on a government (taxpayer) funded...

Night vision goggles? What a cool idea.

'nuff said. (Who can I go irritate now) HMMMMM.........

Kent

Can't accept a compliment? geez.