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    Bellows material in Australia

    Does anyone know of a source for suitable (opaque) bellows material in Australia, Sydney specifically.

    peace out

    Glenn

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Spotlight sell a variety of materials, try there for a start
    Cheers Shane

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    What are you up to, Glenn?

    If you can outline what you're doing, we might be able to help a bit more.

    Are you patching? Are you replacing? Are you folding a totally new one from scratch?
    Lachlan.

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Hey Guys,

    I'm making a replacement bellows for a different polaroid 110 conversion - I don't want to reveal it till I've got it done - very close now

    My folds are spaced 14mm apart - pretty much the same as the original polaroid bellows, and I call a fold peak to peak like wavelength, and the sides of each fold were ~7mm.

    Anyway update on what I've tried...

    I got some Tafeta from spotlight - basically the most opaque black material, that was still thin enough to be used with something else.
    I used this in the centre - will explain this shortly

    For the outside and inside I used self adhesive nylon from a sailcloth supplier.
    This is basically the stuff they use for letters and number on sails, amongst other things.

    Reason I made three layers was because two layers of either material still had micro pinholes where the gaps in the weaves would line up when put together.

    The resulting three layers was just too thick for the number of folds I needed.

    Unlike the original polaroid bellows, I have a steep taper on one side and a very slight taper on the other so I just need to get an opaque material with a single liner and it'll be all good.

    I did use a cut down film changing bag once before, but that's not really sensible to do to my last remaining one

    In the meantime I might try the nylon with the tafeta inside, painted to make it opaque, though I think the paing may present long term duraility issues

    sorry for the long reply - blame caffeine

    peace out

    Glenn

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Hey Guys,

    I'm making a replacement bellows for a different polaroid 110 conversion - I don't want to reveal it till I've got it done - very close now

    My folds are spaced 14mm apart - pretty much the same as the original polaroid bellows, and I call a fold peak to peak like wavelength, and the sides of each fold were ~7mm.

    Anyway update on what I've tried...

    I got some Tafeta from spotlight - basically the most opaque black material, that was still thin enough to be used with something else.
    I used this in the centre - will explain this shortly

    For the outside and inside I used self adhesive nylon from a sailcloth supplier.
    This is basically the stuff they use for letters and number on sails, amongst other things.

    Reason I made three layers was because two layers of either material still had micro pinholes where the gaps in the weaves would line up when put together.

    The resulting three layers was just too thick for the number of folds I needed.

    Unlike the original polaroid bellows, I have a steep taper on one side and a very slight taper on the other so I just need to get an opaque material with a single liner and it'll be all good.

    I did use a cut down film changing bag once before, but that's not really sensible to do to my last remaining one

    In the meantime I might try the nylon with the tafeta inside, painted to make it opaque, though I think the paint may present long term duraility issues

    sorry for the long reply - blame caffeine

    peace out

    Glenn

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Have you thought about thin neoprene?
    Lachlan.

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Hi Lachlan

    Just did some research on neoprene, I haven't yet located anything thin enough.

    I can't be the only person to try and make their own camera bellows in Australia can I?

    peace out

    Glenn

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Have a search for wet suit makers. I think Sonar is one here in Melbourne.
    Lachlan.

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    What about block out curtain material , black cloth on one side and a rubberised coating on the other, you could stick the black nylon sailcloth on that?
    Cheers Shane

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    Re: Bellows material in Australia

    Don't know how thin you're looking for, but try Player Piano or Organ supply places
    they have rubberized cloth that's used for the pump bellows and leather that's very thin.

    You might also try Thorlabs, in the US they sell a blackout cloth that's extremely thin.

    I know you're looking for a source in Australia but this thread has some good info -
    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...ic-found/page2

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