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    Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    Hi there,
    do you now coated lenses which I could use on my Chamonix 45-n1 ?
    Thanks, Jo

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    Your question places a possibly unrealistic limitation on shutter size.

    The 450mm Fujinon C fits into a Copal 1 shutter (and takes only 52mm filters) precisely because is a "compact" design: it only opens to f/12.5

    Other models (even the Nikkor 450M) open to f/9, and are thus larger, heavier, and mounted in larger shutters.

    There is currently a 480mm APO Ronar for sale at the auction site, but it fits in Copal 3 shutter - naturally, since it's f/9 and 1/9 of 480mm is still pretty large. It should work nicely on a Chamonix, as long as it's not too heavy. It's considerably less money than your target price limit.
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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    Hi Ken,
    I got the Apo-Ronar 480 but it is really to heavy.
    I kept it for my 8x10 Studio camera.
    I know it isn't easy, I really know a lot of lenses but maybe someone can help

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    Of course it could be a 420-480mm as well.

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    Another option is a Fujinon 400T, a telephoto design which requires only ~250mm of bellows draw but gives the magnification of a 400mm lens. I used one on a Tachihara for several years, so I know it will work on a Chamonix.

    With a modest amount of cropping, it easily becomes a 450mm lens.

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    The front standard of your little field camera won't support a heavy lens in big shutter without risk of vibration. The Fuji 450C would be ideal. It might take a bit of patience to find one within your budget, but they do sometimes turn up reasonably priced.

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    I dont think you can focus a lens that long without the bed extender thingie, even with it you can barely focus much closer than infinity. Definitely check any lens' flange focal length before buying.
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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    The Fujinon C 450mm is f/12.5, not 11.5. Filter size is 52mm.

    It's FFL is 425.3mm. The weight is only 270g.

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    Lon Overacker, a participant here, has the 450 Nikkor. He uses it on his Chamonix 045N-1, and I've never heard him complain about vibration. The front standard is rigid enough to hold this lens. And yes, you will need the extender board to use either Fuji or the Nikkor on this camera.

    I've used Harley Goldman's 450-C on my Chamonix 045N-2--it's a dream--wish I could affrord one!

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    Re: Looking for a 450mm lens for 4x5" in Copal 1 shutter under 1K ?

    The Ronar lenses are fairly light. It must be the Copal 3 shutter weight of your Ronar 480 that is the problem. The Fuji 450C is the only light weight lens I'm familiar with. Maybe one of the convertible lenses?

    The telephoto lenses don't require as much bellows draw but are heavy.

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