Kami mounting fluid -- Formula

[ruckusman]

Here's a link to one post

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/S.../message/14472

A search for paraffin on the ScanHi-End group yeilds ~43 results, there's some banter, but the reprographic industry has used paraffin (inert mineral oil) for decades for mounting film to scan

One consideration not discussed often is the refractive index of the mounting fluid - IIRC paraffin has a refractive index very close to film, so it forms an additive layer, which fills in scratches and imperfections in the film also, without distorting anything optically.

Don't take the above as gospel, but it's well worth researching...

peace out

Glenn

[coisasdavida]

Thanks, I found most of it.

[coisasdavida]

Has anyone tried this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansodor

[coisasdavida]

Sansodor just passed the "styrofoam cup test" here.

[Peter De Smidt]

That looks promising.

[Ultrachrome]

Reviving an old thread to try to get new information.

We had been using Lumina scanning fluid as it seemed much less noxious than Kami but how the company selling it has recently went out of business. We've been experimenting now with Sansodor with good results other than it takes a lot longer to dry than Lumina. We came to try this as it was suggested by Coisassdavida in this thread. Are there any updates on a safer alternative to Kami?...or perhaps just going by the odor of a substance isn't sound reasoning to determine how harmful a chemical is but Sansodor is sold by Winsor & Newton as it's safest least noxious paint thinner and brush cleaner claiming it to be 3 time safer than turpentine.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as we use a ton of fluid both traditionally and as wet gate fluid on a Lasergraphics movie film scanner.

[sanking]

Reviving an old thread to try to get new information.

We had been using Lumina scanning fluid as it seemed much less noxious than Kami but how the company selling it has recently went out of business. We've been experimenting now with Sansodor with good results other than it takes a lot longer to dry than Lumina. We came to try this as it was suggested by Coisassdavida in this thread. Are there any updates on a safer alternative to Kami?...or perhaps just going by the odor of a substance isn't sound reasoning to determine how harmful a chemical is but Sansodor is sold by Winsor & Newton as it's safest least noxious paint thinner and brush cleaner claiming it to be 3 time safer than turpentine.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as we use a ton of fluid both traditionally and as wet gate fluid on a Lasergraphics movie film scanner.

Gamsol has worked fine for me. Some speculate it is same as Lumina, don't know for sure.

Sandy

[domaz]

Since we reviving old threads. How does one safely deal with these mounting fluids indoors? My darkroom/scanning system is well ventilated but would the sparks inherent in most electric fans cause a safety hazard?

[Daniel Stone]

Since we reviving old threads. How does one safely deal with these mounting fluids indoors? My darkroom/scanning system is well ventilated but would the sparks inherent in most electric fans cause a safety hazard?

Don't water your fans with mounting fluid(or any fluid)

In all seriousness, yes, having some ventilation is recommended. Either into a larger "atmosphere", or, ideally, outside. If you can setup a small fan to suck the fumes away from you, and blow them out a window, that would be best.
I've done all my mounting, indoors. Granted, I'm not a service bureau so my volume is quite low in comparison, so I've never bothered. Keeping a window open too long always seemed to allow more atmospheric dust in than anything.
In short, don't huff the stuff

[Ultrachrome]

Gamsol has worked fine for me. Some speculate it is same as Lumina, don't know for sure.

Sandy

Just bought some Gamsol...Yeah wow, this stuff is truly pretty much odorless and is also a little more volatile than the Sansodor which is nice because Sansodor dries too slow. I'll be testing further soon.. Thanks for the tip!