Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Heliar lens question

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    49

    Heliar lens question

    I have a Heliar in a brass barrel, focal length 11 3/4 inches, aperture range from f4.5-f50. Manufacturer is The Voigtlander & Son Opt Co. New York. Serial number 58409. Was hoping someone might be able to estimate the year of manufacture. Any other information about the lens would be appreciated as well (lens design?).

    Thanks.

    Don

  2. #2
    loujon
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Western, PA.
    Posts
    1,553

    Re: Heliar lens question

    Hi Brother Don

    Long time since last we talked and even longer since we've hung out. Hope all is well and that we catch up some time soon

    Now for your answer. Looks like it's a VERY early Heliar made in or around the late 1900. Here's where I gathered my information from http://motamedi.info/serial.htm . Hope this is what you where looking for.

    Wanted to add that your Heliar is the early or 1st design before the Patent/design change in 1902.
    Peace My friend

    BTW I just love my Home Portrait. Thanks again.
    Last edited by Louis Pacilla; 23-Nov-2012 at 19:45. Reason: add

  3. #3

    Re: Heliar lens question


    Antique & Classic Camera Blog
    www.antiquecameras.net/blog.html

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    214

    Re: Heliar lens question

    The New York/US serial numbers dont fall within the dates that correlate with German branded Voigtlander serial numbers. Numbers approx 57000 - 68000 were "set aside" for these New York/US branded lenses. My estimate is that they correlate in time with the German marked lenses made with serial # of approx. 100,000 to 110,000. FWIW, all lenses were made in Germany.

    cheers
    Tim

  5. #5
    Large Format Rocks ImSoNegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    McCaysville Georgia
    Posts
    1,600

    Re: Heliar lens question

    I got my first Heliar last week, its a 15cm 4.5 in a compur shutter. did a few portraits with it the other day to test it out, wow what a lens. love it. would like to find a longer focal length for my 8x10
    "WOW! Now thats a big camera. By the way, how many megapixels is that thing?"

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    49

    Re: Heliar lens question

    Tim,

    As per the CC Harrison website, that would place date of manufacture around 1909-10. What does that mean, if anything, about the lens formula? I've heard that the design of the lens changed at some point but not sure when this occurred. Also, thanks to all who responded, very helpful.

    Don

    PS Louis, let me know next time you plan a trip to NYC.

  7. #7
    Foamer
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    South Dakota
    Posts
    2,143

    Re: Heliar lens question

    If the lens was in Compound, you can tell a bit about it by the construction. The Compound started begin made around 1904. If the air release for the shutter is in the 11 o'clock position on the shutter, it was made 1909 & later. The Voigtlander serial numbers that seem to match 1900 but have a U.S. patent seem to be placed in shutters dating to 1909.


    Kent in SD
    Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris,
    miserere nobis.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    214

    Re: Heliar lens question

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Ciccone View Post
    Tim,

    As per the CC Harrison website, that would place date of manufacture around 1909-10. What does that mean, if anything, about the lens formula? I've heard that the design of the lens changed at some point but not sure when this occurred.
    There's another thread on this forum that discusses the construction ("heliar" vs. "dynar - new heliar"). In my experience, it depends on focal length. The larger lenses (approx 300 mm and up) had the old construction up to nearly WW2. The smaller lenses switched much earlier. Best thing to do is check the reflections! The other thread has details on this

    Cheers

    Tim

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Hamilton, Canada
    Posts
    1,724

    Re: Heliar lens question

    Does the lens have a patent number on the front ring?

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    49

    Re: Heliar lens question

    Quote Originally Posted by cowanw View Post
    Does the lens have a patent number on the front ring?
    Bill,

    No patent number/date on front ring, all information is on the barrel and no mention of patent. What does this mean?

    Don

Similar Threads

  1. Heliar - with a question
    By Emil Schildt in forum Lenses & Lens Accessories
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 29-Oct-2012, 08:29
  2. Question about a Heliar Lens 18cm F4.5 #124934
    By northcarolinajack in forum Lenses & Lens Accessories
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 25-May-2012, 12:28
  3. Question about 210 Heliar and Apo lanthar
    By Songyun in forum Lenses & Lens Accessories
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 17-Nov-2011, 15:11
  4. Heliar question
    By swmcl in forum Lenses & Lens Accessories
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 15-Oct-2010, 18:25
  5. Heliar Question Again
    By Hugo_6476 in forum Lenses & Lens Accessories
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 1-Apr-2006, 14:47

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •