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    Considering XTOL for HP5+ & FP4+

    My D-76 has bought the farm, so to speak, so I thought this might be the time to experiment. Any suggestions or tips?
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    Re: Considering XYTOL for HP-+ & FP-4+

    Pyrocat HD in glycol. Inexpensive & long-lasting. Great developer for both HP5 & FP4.

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    Re: Considering XYTOL for HP-+ & FP-4+

    I'd suggest a staining developer too just for fun.

    I picked up some WD2D+ it's easy to use and the negatives have been really easy to print in the enlarger.
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    Re: Considering XYTOL for HP-+ & FP-4+

    Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with your D76? Is this developer you mixed yourself? Is availability being affected with Kodak's bankruptsy?

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    Re: Considering XYTOL for HP-+ & FP-4+

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Y View Post
    Pyrocat HD in glycol. Inexpensive & long-lasting. Great developer for both HP5 & FP4.
    A great choice for many films.

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    Re: Considering XTOL for HP5+ & FP4+

    I too am a fan of the Pyrocats. Xtol is also a very good developer.
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    Re: Considering XYTOL for HP-+ & FP-4+

    The batch I have is old and expired because its taken me so long to get back into my dark room for a printing session.Outside of that, D-76 is my developer of choice. Since TMY is out of my league I've been using HP-5+ as my fast film and I've heard XYTOL is good for wringing the last bit of speed out of film so that is the reaon for my question. I'd love to try pyro but that chem don't
    jive with a certain health issue I've been blessed with.
    Quote Originally Posted by neil poulsen View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with your D76? Is this developer you mixed yourself? Is availability being affected with Kodak's bankruptsy?
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    Re: Considering XTOL for HP5+ & FP4+

    I used xtol for about a year and tried everything, I just could not get it to look the way that i wanted. The tones were not too good, way too much mid for me. The main killer was the mushy grain. I am now to hc-110 and d76. I like both of them much more.

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    Re: Considering XTOL for HP5+ & FP4+

    You'll love Xtol with both those films.
    HP5 at 320, 16 minutes in Xtol 1:3
    FP4 at 100, 12 minutes in Xtol 1:3
    Mix the powder with distilled water, following the directions to dissolve part A completely before adding part B.
    Don't rush it.

    I also use distilled water to dilute the developer just before use.
    Be sure to use at least 100ml of stock developer per 80 sq. in. of film.
    I use 125ml because I have lots of little 125ml bottles that I keep full to the top with Xtol.
    I consider each bottle a dose of developer for one roll of 35 or 120 or 4 sheets of 4X5.

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    Re: Considering XTOL for HP5+ & FP4+

    Some years ago on the job we carefully tested XTOL 1:1 as a replacement for D-76 1:1 (in a particular technical application shooting TMX). We found that XTOL 1:1 was a little sharper and offered a lovely linear tonal scale. it was a small but worthwhile improvement. I started using it for my 35mm Tri-X as well, and have not looked back.

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