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    Re: Photos at Occupying Wall Street

    I will invoke my special powers that make your blood run cold and repost the links of the photos for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev curry View Post
    Great post Joseph, very clear. It was transparent from the start that deep ideological opposition to the Occupy movement lay behind the attack on the work of Bradley.
    As opposed to the "deep ideological" sympathy toward the movement that leads to such admiration of relatively basic photos?

    Some photographers are like politicians, racing to any disaster or crisis to find poster children for their political causes. Sorry if I don't see the genius in that.

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    As opposed to the "deep ideological" sympathy toward the movement that leads to such admiration of relatively basic photos?

    Some photographers are like politicians, racing to any disaster or crisis to find poster children for their political causes. Sorry if I don't see the genius in that.
    Jerold,

    I provided the links to Bradley's photographs without comment. I think that his framework for these photographs is interesting, that the way he processed the images is interesting and that his web site, including the more technical aspects of the site, are worth looking at. I have come to no judgment about his work (I have some reservations about the way that they are processed), which is precisely why I offered the links without comment, and your suggestion that I have "deep ideological" sympathy toward the movement and "admiration" for Mr. Bradley's work are assertions that have no basis in anything that I said.

    Here's what we have so far:

    You have attacked all of the people in Mr. Bradley's photographs, and indeed all of the people engaged in the Occupy Wall Street movement, to borrow from Joseph's post, as "homeless, mentally ill, anti-capitalist, socialist, anarchist revolutionary, pierced, tattooed, unkempt, idle 'occupiers' with incoherent personal statements".

    You have asserted that Mr. Bradley made his series of photographs because he also has an anti-capitalist, socialist, if not anarchist, revolutionary agenda, and that he used the people that he photographed as "poster children" to advance his agenda.

    You have attacked me for offering a link to Mr. Bradley's photographs on the ground that doing so is evidence that I have "deep ideological sympathy toward the movement" that has led to "admiration" for Mr. Bradley's photographs.

    Right.

    Now, here's a question. How come you are attacking Mr. Bradley and the people that he photographed on these grounds, and me for providing a link to Mr. Bradley's work, but have made a point of saying that your comments apply to none of the many photographers who participate in this forum who have posted Occupy Wall Street photographs to this thread, nor to any of the photographs that they took?
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    R.e.,

    I never mentioned you personally. I was talking about the photos from the links themselves and my opinions about them. Sorry I gave you offense, especially since you have no opinions about them. I am not attacking you or anyone. I am offering my opinion about material discussed/presented here. I suppose you are as well (implicitly) by the information you provide even "without comment."

    Don't you think that the photos involved offer a viewpoint? If not, how could they be of interest to anyone? I don't know why Mr. Bradley made those photos. How could I? But the same qualities of them that interested you enough to post the links interested me enough to comment on them.

    I am not "attacking" anyone. I am calling the occupiers exactly what they call themselves. Read your own links about the organizers. They are proud to be socialist rabble rousers who live to destroy or at least disrupt our economic system and constitutional government. That is not really a secret at this point. My comments about mental illness in relation to some of the protesters were half joking-but clearly struck a cord. I meant no offense to the mentally ill, only the protesters.

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    Re: Photos at Occupying Wall Street

    Let's keep it apolitical, or this whole thread will go south.

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    Mr Harter, I don't want to get into this primarily because I don't want to jeopardise this thread.
    I will say this, I find your views and your attitudes abhorrent and even more disturbing given your profession. You provide further confirmation of my already dim view of psychiatry.

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    Re: Photos at Occupying Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by kev curry View Post
    Mr Harter, I don't want to get into this primarily because I don't want to jeopardise this thread.
    I will say this, I find your views and your attitudes abhorrent and even more disturbing given your profession. You provide further confirmation of my already dim view of psychiatry.

    ''The style is the man''
    I interpret Mr. Harter comments differently. He has a more accurate and compassioned view of the homeless than any of us, regardless of any political view. I also think it’s kind of “low” to use the homeless as a “filler”. So much for human values of the occupiers. Like they say: “Dime de que alardeas y te dire de que careces”

    I'm waiting for the first snow storm. Then I'll bring the camera and a cup of coffee. I can't wait!

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    Re: Photos at Occupying Wall Street

    Joćo Canziani's 99 Portraits:

    http://ninetynineportraits.com/#/ninetynine
    http://lpvmagazine.com/2011/11/joao-canziani-99/

    Quite a scene at Lincoln Center last night. Phillip Glass, Lou Reed and Laurie Anderson addressed Occupy Wall Street Protestors, and departing opera goers who crossed police barricades to join them, at the conclusion of a performance of Glass's opera Satyagraha:

    http://www.therestisnoise.com/2011/1...a-protest.html
    http://www.theawl.com/2011/12/at-sat...lincoln-center
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    Re: Photos at Occupying Wall Street

    Not bad.
    These guys were fortunate to have 99 photos from which to choose.
    I went almost every day for 2 weeks, and got maybe 25 people in total.

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    Re: Photos at Occupying Wall Street

    For those who might be interested, http://archive.org has just put out a call for material on the Occupy movement: http://blog.archive.org/
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