Help/Advice on Camera+Lens Value pls

[Vesalius]

Hi Group,
A very large format camera was presented for sale to me.

This huge camera seems in very good condition, with one plate holder.
I estimate the plate size to be around 60 X 80 cm. The bottom part of the table is missing (foot under table).
There is also one lens that reads:

Triple Anastigmat F=600mm ,
Cooke Linse, H.D. Taylor's Patent DRP 86737
Voightlander s Sohn braunschweig
N° 58649

What would the market-value be for this beast?

Many thanks all !
Mike

[Vesalius]

Anyone? Something on the lens, maybe?

[Dan Fromm]

Uncommon, thin market, few, if any, recent prices. Put it up for sale on the great auction site and then you'll know.

[TheDeardorffGuy]

Have a Photo or 5?

[joselsgil]

Vesalius,

Were are you located? If you are planning on selling this camera and you must ship form a remote location, the shipping cost would come into play. Some of the older cameras are large and bulky which makes shipping $$$

If you are in a metropolitan area, you have a better chance of getting a fair price for it, as shipping or even a local purchase can help keep the buyer's expense down.

[Two23]

Condition is everything too, especially the bellows.


Kent in SD

[Steven Tribe]

The lens is a very well known "intermediate/stopgap" offering from Voigtländer.
They had great success with good fast aplanats, but were left behind in the anastigmatic development in the 1890's.
First, they licenced the early protars from Carl Zeiss. Then they made a similar arrangement with T,T & H for the Cooke triplet.
There are two series which have the cooke details on them.
Series I, F from 6.8 up to 9 (1887 - 1903)
Series II, again F from 6.8 to F9 (1911-1913).

I think the series I is by far the commoner.
The 60cm is the 9th in the list, 8cm across the front lens! Covers more than 50x60cm.
This is thus an objective that will attract the UULF crew! The fact that Voigtländer made lots of very big Heliars later might influence prices.

If you are in Europe, there is a tradition for these monster plate cameras - called Grosser Salon Apparat.
One was sold last week in Berlin in a general auction. It was listed with a starting bid of €100. Not a super large objective, though. Hammer price is not available on line - but I doubt it went very high. The biggest model was 80x100cm plate. All these camera have very solid tables which look more suitable for coffin transport. It makes the Century stand design look lightweight.

[franeq]

I have the same lens with different focal:
Portrait-Anastigmat Focal=480mm 4.5
Cooke Linse, H.D. Taylor's Patent DRP 86737
Voightlander & Sohn braunschweig
N° 59,xxx

Could someone write rounded value, with both caps, without board, glass in nearly mint condition.

I found only this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Messigobje...-/281028507252

I would like to use this lens on my FKD 30x40, i`m waiting for delivery camera.

[Steven Tribe]

As I have already told you in a reply to your PM, this is a series II Cooke design. Voigtländer made 3 versions - the 48cm makes it the first series which is listed for just 24x30cm coverage. This was a very expensive lens in 1914 (960 marks) but is not very sought after because of the coverage (typical for triplets) and the more distinctive Heliar.

[franeq]

Ok, but price what you write 300-400 E is ridiculous.... so I ask here