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    8x10, 5x7, 4x5, et al Leigh's Avatar
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    Question What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    I've recently expanded my LF shooting to include an 8x10 Tachihara.

    In reviewing the catalogs I have, I find few lenses that will cover that format with reasonable shifts/rises, and all of them are 150mm to 450mm.

    Unfortunately only two of my dozen 4x5 lenses will work with the 8x10.

    Are there any longer or shorter lenses that will cover the format, i.e. image circle of 400mm minimum?

    Not interested in Petzvals or other lenses older than perhaps 20 years.

    TIA

    - Leigh

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    G Clarons from 240mm on up. 450mm Nikon M.
    I think some of the best deals going are lenses old enought to vote a couple of times over---especially the Kodak 14" Commecial Ektar & 19" & 24" Goerz Artar.
    Shorter lenses are going to be heavy and or costly. The 120 SW Nikon is pretty slick but not alot of wiggle room but IIRC it covers 8x10. Longer lenses need lots of bellows. 24" of bellows plus a good amount in reserve will tax the capabilities of many wooden field cameras unless you've got something like a studio camera or Calumet green monster.
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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    Hi John,

    Thanks for the info. I have the Nikkor-M 450mm/f9.

    I tend to translate FLs into their 4x5 equivalent, since it's a simple divide-by-two.

    The range I've found for 8x10 is much narrower than the range available for the 4x5.

    Thanks again.

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    One the bright side, 8x10 lenses are quite a bit larger than 4x5 lenses. Who'd want to carry a 4 or 5 lens kit around plus a compliment of larger and heavier 8x10 film holders?
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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    Have you checked this?

    http://www.largeformatphotography.info/lenses/

    I doubt there are any shorter than 150 that will cover at infinity...even if your camera can actually handle anything shorter, which I doubt. I use a 159mm that is an SOB to use with all the bellows I have on the Zone VI 8x10.

    There are 600's available, if you have the bellows draw to handle them -- a triple extension Tachi probably can. I like the 24" RD Artar, but really do not use it that much...I use the 19" version much more. I also have a Turner Reich convertible -- a 12"/19"/28". At 28" it takes my bellows of my Zone VI 8x10 to the very ends of the rails to get infinity in focus -- much easier to use on my Kodak 2D.

    But I like what John said, you probably won't be hauling a large collection of lenses around -- and, IMO, the larger the format, the less lenses you need.

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    Hi Vaughn,

    Nope. It's an Excel spreadsheet, and I'm on a Mac, so I can't read it.

    I've accessed all of the resources I can find online, including the Kerry Thalman archive and all of the manufacturers' sites.

    Thanks.

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian View Post
    One the bright side, 8x10 lenses are quite a bit larger than 4x5 lenses. Who'd want to carry a 4 or 5 lens kit around plus a compliment of larger and heavier 8x10 film holders?
    True statement. But I need the exercise.

    My Nikkor-W 360mm/f6.5 weighs 1420 grams, which is over 3 pounds. It's part of my 12-lens 4x5 kit.

    Thanks.

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    I've recently expanded my LF shooting to include an 8x10 Tachihara.

    In reviewing the catalogs I have, I find few lenses that will cover that format with reasonable shifts/rises, and all of them are 150mm to 450mm.

    Unfortunately only two of my dozen 4x5 lenses will work with the 8x10.

    Are there any longer or shorter lenses that will cover the format, i.e. image circle of 400mm minimum?

    Not interested in Petzvals or other lenses older than perhaps 20 years.

    TIA

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Hi Vaughn,

    Nope. It's an Excel spreadsheet, and I'm on a Mac, so I can't read it.

    I've accessed all of the resources I can find online, including the Kerry Thalman archive and all of the manufacturers' sites.

    Thanks.

    - Leigh
    It's an excel spreadsheet yes, but also an html link:

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in.../LF8x10in.html

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    Re: What modern lenses cover 8x10 with movements?

    There aren't that many modern lenses which cover 400mm, frankly. How about lowering your expectations to, say, 350mm or so? That gives a couple of inches of movement, more or less, which is more than adequate for most purposes.

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