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    Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture question

    How do I determine the aperture adjustment?? Spot meter on ground glass? Measure the amount of light falling on the ground glass?

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    Re: Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture questi

    See if Calumet can supply you with a scale?
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    Re: Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture questi

    Open the diaphragm as wide as it will go. Close it slowly. The marked stop at which it just becomes visible through the front element corresponds to f/9.

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    Re: Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture questi

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Open the diaphragm as wide as it will go. Close it slowly. The marked stop at which it just becomes visible through the front element corresponds to f/9.
    After that how do I determine the other fstops?

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    f/11 is 1/2 stop down from f/9. f/16 is 1 stop down from f/11. And so on.

    The scale marks are spaced 1 stop apart. Once you've found the mark that corresponds to f/9 you're set. Except that you should know this already.

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    Your old scale is usable but it's 1/3 stop off at every stop. ie. when it says you're at f11, slide the aperture 1/3 stop back towards f8, and this is your new f11. One possibility is to elongate the holes in the scale so you can re-attach it in the correct place for the numbers to work. Or simply try to remember to always open a 1/3rd of a stop. Recipe for disaster playing these memory games for most of us, but it's only a 1/3 stop.

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    Re: Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture questi

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    f/11 is 1/2 stop down from f/9. f/16 is 1 stop down from f/11. And so on.

    The scale marks are spaced 1 stop apart. Once you've found the mark that corresponds to f/9 you're set. Except that you should know this already.
    I didn't know that the spacing between fstops is the same no matter what elements your using...

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    Re: Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture questi

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    f/11 is 1/2 stop down from f/9. f/16 is 1 stop down from f/11. And so on.

    The scale marks are spaced 1 stop apart. Once you've found the mark that corresponds to f/9 you're set. Except that you should know this already.
    This assumes that the shutter has stops spaced in a linear fashion - I know some older Compurs dont (more spread out at the wide open end) in which case its a bit trickier. But if its a linear scale you're laughing.

    I use a 150mm g claron in a shutter from a 150mm symmar-s. As someone else said, find the point that its just stops being wide open and this is your F9 point, everything else should then fall into place assuming a linear aperture shutter. In my case all the stops were about a stop less than on the scale (i.e. f32 on the g claron is about the same diameter as f45 on the symmar, presumably some quirk of lens design).

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    Re: Mounted 240 g clarion elements in my sironar 210mm copal shutter..aperture questi

    Hi
    I have made (Photoshop) a scale for using both 210mm and 240mm G Clarons on a Copal 1 shotter (see below), I have had to reduce the image size to enable to publish it here, if anyone on this forum would like an actual size high res. Jpeg please send your email address via PM and I will forward a copy.

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    Think about the meaning of f/ numbers and you'll see why.

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