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    Apr 2001

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    For the last few days my attempts to get onto this forum have been met by a page announcing that this (and several other forums hosted by Lusenet) have been mov ed to, are temporarily unavailable, and that links will be posted on t he page shortly. In the mean time it appears that you have all been happily add ing and answering questions. Has anybody else been unable to get onto the LF fo rum here?

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    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    Yes Graeme, I got the same announcement yesterday and I was just checking today to see if the new link would be available.

    This is most confusing !

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    Founder QT Luong's Avatar
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    Aug 1997
    San Jose, CA

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    The reason why I did not post a notice about the move to is that I discovered it the same way as you did. I did not agree to it definitively and was notified only one night before. However from January to now I was not able to get an alternative site set-up, as a few alternatives didn't materialize, so might still be the best option by default.

    The move was going to happen in 24 hours, but it seems the volunteer in charge was not able to complete it due to other commitments, so for a short while the forum looks availble at On community/forums, there is nothing yet, but on "Unified views" you'll notice that the LF forum (and others) are now listed.

    Let's wait a little and see what happens.

    I'll post updates on the LF page if necessary.

    Here is the collective email I received: At Philip's request (and of the staff), the following forums (one of which you maintain) are being incorporated into B&W Photo - Film & Processing B&W Photo - Printing and Finishing Brownie Cameras Camera Equipment Canon EOS FAQ forum Canon FD Large Format Photography Leica Photography Pentax 67 SLR People Photography Later tonight these forums will become inaccessible through LUSENET, and they will be available on within 24 hours. Any postings made by users with accounts under the same email address will have their LUSENET postings incorporated into their history. If a user (including any of you) do not have a account, or an account under a different email address, a new one will created which you can access by asking the server to email your password to you. If you registered a account with a different email address then you used on LUSENET, an administrator can merge your new account(s) with your existing one. In place of these forums I'll post an explanatory message and a link to Eventually this will be replaced by an automatic redirect to the new forum. If you have any questions, please email me. Philip has left for the summer already. Sorry for the short notice, but summer looms.

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    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    to Q.-Tuan Luong:

    Why don't you go with a regular ISP (a small one) and get sponsors to cover your expenses? It should be possible! this forum is valuable not only to the users here but also to manufacturers and distributors. They should be told about this forum and the valuable service you provide. As the matter of fact this forum is a far better place to spend advertising / PR dollars than through regular advertising channels (which is probably 5 times as expensive as what you could charge!).

    Need help? Email me!

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    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    Wait jus'ta minute young man!

    No ones going anywhere until you clean up your darkroom!!

    And! Wipe up that hypo!!!!!

    You haven't had a stopbath in a week!!!!!

    When you answer a few more 1000 Questions

    then and only then you can go.

    No!! You cant use the weesner, take the Calumet.

    I don't care what the other kids say the

    Calumet works exactly the same.

    Enough of this GO CLEAN YOUR DARKROOM!!!!

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    Jan 1998

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    I don't see any reason not to have it a if it's free and it works, which it probably will. If not, I hereby pledge 50$ for the next year's service. Please don't go with advertising if you can help it, and I love the simple format (black text, white background, no flashing, dancing bears -- GAWD I hate that!).

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    tim atherton's Avatar
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    Jul 1998

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    Did anything come of Josh Wands solution?

    It shouldn't be too hard to extract all the archives and add to them to that?

    "I've been a lurker here, and a semi-active participant in the People Photography forum. I was a bit distressed about the prospect of the greenspun servers going away, so I started writing a facsimile of the q-and-a system in a more portable form than ACS is (PHP/mySQL vs. AOLServer/ACS/Postgres/Oracle).

    The result is Mind you, it's not finished yet (most notably missing are email notifications, but that will be added within the next week or so), but the core functionality is there and solid.

    My next task after polishing up the service to current levels is to figure out how to move existing content-- I can write a spider, I suppose, but I might ask philg if he can give me raw database dumps of both the forums (and any others that might wish to move) so I can import them directly into my new system.

    I also plan on releasing the source code so that others can maintain similar services on most popular UNIX webhosts.

    How does this idea sit with the forum?

    -- Josh Wand (, April 09, 2002."

    You'd be amazed how small the demand is for pictures of trees... - Fred Astaire to Audrey Hepburn blog

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    Nov 1999

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    Well, it's still there and working. I haven't done much to it in recent months (been busy looking for work), but from a user perspective it works just fine. You can see here what remains to be implemented (most notably admin features).

    I guess we'll wait and see what happens with; if it goes sour I would be happy to maintain my software at my site. The issue of importing the archives remains unresolved as of now, however.

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    Mar 2000

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    man oh man, I got the DT's (shakes) after not being able to log onto the LF site as I do everyday!

    We REALLY need to have the archived chats on CD roms that are searchable. The computer/programming part of it is over my head though...

    Best wishes to all! miles

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    Founder QT Luong's Avatar
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    Aug 1997
    San Jose, CA

    ADMIN: I think we are going to ....

    Josh, thanks for your effort and offer, and sorry for not replying to you earlier (I was on a long trip less than a month ago).

    I agree that porting LUSENET to mysql/php would have been a solution, since it would allow us to run the QA Forum in its present form from a regular account with a web host (as opposed to the dedicated server needed to run OpenACS with its fringe technologies).

    However, the missing features (in particular admin and categories) are really needed to manage a forum as large as this one (more than 50000 postings).

    For transfering the data, all I can do is spidering Lusenet, as the "forum dump" feature provided on the admin page hasn't been working from last December.

    For now, we will go for posting, but I will also archive the forum at another site where you will be able to search only for LF contents with the google engine.

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